Constantine residents rally against, shoot down assault weapon ban

[beevul]

Constantine residents rally against, shoot down assault weapon ban

Posted 11:10 PM, January 18, 2016, by FOX 17 News

CONSTANTINE, Mich. -- For now, it seems that an assault weapons ban in the Village of Constantine is unlikely to pass as residents and outsiders lobbied nearly unanimously against it.

Monday night, Constantine council president Patricia Weiss opened the floor for public comment. She made and distributed printouts of a New York Times editorial - End the Gun Epidemic in America - that was published in early December to explain her rationale behind the ban.

What she didn't expect was to hear from over 20 people, speaking in unison against the possible ban.

Weiss even brought homemade cookies to calm tensions that were brought up at the council meeting two weeks prior, but even those didn't sway any to her side.

Resistance against a possible lawsuit - should a ban be enacted - was polled, with nearly the whole room raising their hands in protest.

http://fox17online.com/2016/01/18/constantine-residents-rally-against-shoot-down-assault-weapon-ban/

But we are told that the public supports banning so called 'assault weapons'.

[Duckhunter935]

1. the controllers

Were stuck at their keyboards doing Google cut and pasting

[LonePirate]

2. Twenty people show up to protest a vote? Anybody can rally twenty people to protest something.

I'm guessing some ammosexual got wind of the vote and brought some buddies to protest/speak while the sane citizens who actually value life and liberty over gun violence didn't attend. It is foolish to reach the conclusion that America is largely against these types of bills based on the turnout for this one meeting.

There is absolutely no rational need for Joe Public to own an assault weapon.

[DonP]

3. Anybody except the gun control people obviously

Funny how gun control is so "popular" that they have a hard time mustering a crowd for a protest or for voting.

Hell, you can't even get 10 people to post here in the Gun Control group, let along actually do anything in the real world. And that's a "Safe Haven" where no one will ever make you think or contradict your anti gun prejudices.

As noted, probably too busy at their keyboards bad mouthing gun owners, that accounts for the stunning political and judicial success record.

[beevul]

4. Apparently, the gun control pushers couldn't.

Twenty people show up to protest a vote? Anybody can rally twenty people to protest something.

Apparently, the gun control pushers couldn't.

I'm guessing some ammosexual got wind of the vote and brought some buddies to protest/speak while the sane citizens who actually value life and liberty over gun violence didn't attend.

A full reading of the article and related information ('due diligence', see dictionary) often leads to less 'guessing'. If you had, you'd see that the first meeting in which the issue came up, was on January 4, and that "The topic is on the council agenda on January 18th". But gee, that would mean having to acknowledge that gun control pushers had TWO WEEKS to rally support, yet came up Nix.

It is foolish to reach the conclusion that America is largely against these types of bills based on the turnout for this one meeting.

Its even more foolish to listen to conclusions about so called 'assault weapons' made by people that hate guns and the people that own them. For example:

There is absolutely no rational need for Joe Public to own an assault weapon.

There is no department of needs. This is a free society. Get over it. Or don't.

[Eleanors38]

5. "Anybody can rally twenty people to protest:" No, the controllers rarely can.

That's just the problem with the gun-control outlook. If it were not for the assiduous propagandizing by MSM, these groups would be seen for what they are: a tiny fringe.

[sarisataka]

6. It appears that the twenty protestors

were approximately twenty more than those who cared enough to show up in support of the idea 'there is absolutely no rational need for Joe Public to own an assault weapon'.

May I counter guess that no, um... ammophobe(?) got wind of this meeting or if they did (or were at the initial meeting held two weeks prior) they couldn't find any buddies?

How committed is the sane citizen who actually value life and liberty over gun violence if they do not attend these type of hearings?

[LonePirate]

7. Guns are more important to gunners than anything else. That's why they prioritize these protests

Those favoring bans are likely busy with things that actually matter - friends, family, life in general. Gunners have a small base with intense enthusiasm. Ban supporters have a much larger base but enthusiasm is nowhere as intense. But I am sure gunners think we'll over 300 million Americans share their enthusiasm even though reality is exactly the opposite.

[sarisataka]

8. I'm not sure where I fall then

I find time for family, friends, life in general and I found time to sign petitions in support of our current shall issue carry laws.

I also found time to contact my Rep about our DV law that removes firearms from persons under an RO.

If you do not participate in the process, do not complain about the end result. If the 300 million who oppose firearms stay home and one million enthusiastic gunners turn out, guess which group will get their bill passed? Hint- not the majority's.

[DonP]

10. Wow! Nice excuses for people that are basically lazy and cheap

Lots of people agree with you, ... but you have no evidence or proof of it beyond sheer faith?

Maybe that explains why no one actually "belongs" to any dues paying gun control organizations.

Fer cryan out loud, you don't even have 5 regular posters in the Gun Control Safe Haven group! If you can't muster support on DU, why should we believe there's a vast army of serious gun control people out there?

"Ban supporters have a much larger base" Now that's funny. Just like Nixon's "Silent Majority" that supported everything he did. Just like your imaginary "broader base" they never show up either, not even to vote.

They never reach for the checkbook, go to town hall meetings like this one, take a day or two of vacation time to go to the state capitol and meet with legislators. In point of fact, they never seem to do anything but whine online.

Far too busy driving the kids to soccer practice, stopping for an hour or two at Starbuck's to work on their screenplay, but boy they do hate those guns and that NRA, just not enough to be bothered to actually do anything about it besides seethe in silent rage.

So ... based on the actual record; I gotta go with mostly cheap, lazy "Keyboard Kommandos". All talk, no action, no results.

[beevul]

16. Thats hillarious.

Ban supporters have a much larger base but enthusiasm is nowhere as intense.

"More people agree with ban supporters, they just don't agree with them that much."

Yeah. That's why all the gun control groups active membership combined couldn't fill a second rate sports stadium, while the nra and other pro-gun orgs membership numbers well over 6 million.

Because more people agree with the banners.


75 percent of the American people believe amendment 2 protects an individual right. That filters out the gun banners, and shows your claim to be the falsehood that it is.

But I am sure gunners think we'll over 300 million Americans share their enthusiasm even though reality is exactly the opposite.

Usually this is where I ask what color the sky is in this make believe world of yours, but I think it might be wiser to ask if there even is one in this case.

[LonePirate]

17. The delusions of gunners are what's hilarious.

Americans as a whole may currently support someone's right to own a handgun or a hunting rifle. Gunners mistakenly misinterpret that support and feel Americans support their right to own thousands of assault rifles and other tools of murder. Some even foolishly believe Americans support their psychopathic need to carry openly in public. Nothing could be further from the truth.

The day cannot come soon enough when we repeal the 2A, confiscate every gun in this country and jail those who refuse to turn over their guns. Guns serve absolutely no beneficial purpose in a modern, civilized society.

[branford]

18. At least you're honest about your repeal, ban, confiscate and arrest philosophy.

It's absolutely ludicrous, has virtually no popular support (and what little support exists is decreasing), an attempt to implement it would destroy the Democratic Party and possibly cause a civil war, and it's ideologically farther from the Democratic Platform concerning firearms than the NRA, but at least you're not blowing some hot air about only wanting "reasonable" "gun safety" legislation.

Now, what are you actually doing to implement your gun-free utopian dream other than complaining on DU?

[DonP]

20. What is the poster actually "doing"? Now that's funny

Their mere "sincerity" is sufficient "support" in the mind of the gun control fan.

Real world implementation? Bah! That's for those stupid Ammosexuals.

Like Linus and his Pumpkin Patch, waiting for the Great Pumpkin to appear in the most "sincere patch".

"So verily I say unto thee Gun Humpers; 2nd repeal, forced confiscation and imprisonment of gun owners will all come to pass somewhere off in the distant future beyond your mortal vision"

It's much cheaper for them too. This way they don't have to reach for their wallet or purse, write a check, take any time off work to protest or meet with legislators. They really like not having to do anything and still being able to demean people they don't agree with or like. And ... they aren't embarrassed when they lose another legislative or judicial battle, because someday ....

My new favorite excuse they use for being lazy and/or cheap is; "It may take several generations, but one day people will reject guns the way they reject ___________" (fill in the blank with your favorite distasteful habit).

Nothing like pushing failure off for 40 to 60 years or so.

[beevul]

21. I can understand why you'd see it that way...

The delusions of gunners are what's hilarious.

I can understand why you'd see it that way, isolated and protected in your little fantasyland, where reality need not apply. Anything that contradicts your little fantasy world, is a 'delusion'. Well, You are entirely free to reside there, just bear in mind that outside of it, reality and fact and people do not simply bend to your nonsensical notions.

The day cannot come soon enough when we repeal the 2A, confiscate every gun in this country and jail those who refuse to turn over their guns. Guns serve absolutely no beneficial purpose in a modern, civilized society.

If you practice really really hard and spend a lot of time in front of a mirror working on facial expresions and correct makeup, and a fair bit of time practicing the voice, maybe you can pull off a passable version of "I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too". It wont bother me or hurt my feelings, but in your little fantasyland, I'm sure I'll be terrified.

[SecularMotion]

9. The title is incorrect. They were not all residents of Constantine.

For now, it seems that an assault weapons ban in the Village of Constantine is unlikely to pass as residents and outsiders lobbied nearly unanimously against it.

[DonP]

11. So gun control supporters could have come from all over the state, right?

But none of them did.

Maybe the NRA hid the news from the entire gun control movement?

Or maybe the gun control side was just too lazy to go out on a cold day for such an important meeting?

[sarisataka]

12. Did Bloomberg forget

To send some of his 'local grassroots support' representation? There is a Michigan chapter of Mom's Demand Action.

[beevul]

13. The underlying truth, however, is not...

The underlying truth, however, is not.

Gun control, regardless of what your chosen push polls say, has almost zero grass roots support.

[Duckhunter935]

14. Bloomberg cut

His bus funding?

[beevul]

15. Pro-gun = grass roots.

Anti-gun = crassroots.

[ileus]

19. It won't help, they'll do what they want, what citizens want be damned.

We gave them and inch, they're in the process of taking their mile.


If we won't be progressive on the 2A they'll destroy it one piece at a time...