4 Year Old Accidentally Dies After Accidentally Shooting Himself By Accident With Grandpa's Gun

[SoCalMusicLover]

Accident Of The Day

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3412110/Texas-boy-4-dies-accidentally-shooting-head-grandfather-s-gun.html

[Binkie The Clown]

1. Another household made safer by guns and the gunslinger mentality. n/t

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

2. Hi and welcome

Here's the SOP: "Discuss gun politics, gun control laws, the Second Amendment, the use of firearms for self-defense, and the use of firearms to commit crime and violence." I'm not seeing the word "accident" in there, not even once.

It's a tragedy but nothing in your OP addresses anything that fits here.

[SoCalMusicLover]

4. Thanks

So where does it belong? In the other Gun category?

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

9. IIRC this was an incident...

...in Texas so perhaps the Texas group. Now if you wanted to discuss aspects of this event which may or, in your opinion, should have a bearing on existing or future laws, then you're in the right place.

The GCRA group also discusses advocacy for new gun laws.

(I'm not a host here.)

[Eleanors38]

11. Most figures put childhood death-by-gun accidents below 70/yr. "Daily?"

Not unless you are employing a newly-discovered ancient calendar, or a just-created new math.

The NSF says that accidental gun deaths by kids under 15 yoa is falling dramatically over the last 20 years, and now ranks well below many other causes of death.

[gejohnston]

3. to put in context

for every case like this, there are seven deaths by accidental burning, twelve drownings, and 51 accidental poisonings.

[SoCalMusicLover]

5. How Sad

We should get rid of anything that causes fire.

All pools, lakes, rivers need to be drained, and bathtubs eliminated.

And all sources of poison such as cleaning supplies, pesticides, etc., should be taken off store shelves Immediately.

Oh....and while we're at it, distribution of guns should be more strictly regulated and controlled, with an requirement of training for ALL who purchase.

Too far with the guns?

[gejohnston]

6. accidents with guns and poison have dropped

over the decades. With children that age group we are down to less than 50 accidental shootings a year. The peak was in the 1930s.
There are a number of reasons for it, one being improved safety technology and parents securing their guns.
I remember PSAs telling parents to secure household chemicals.

the NSSF, the manufactures lobby, and the ATF have been doing PSAs about straw buying is a federal felony punishable up to ten years. Perhaps the NRA and National Safety Council can team up and do the same with safe storage.

As for "more strictly" controlling guns, I don't know how you define it. Infringing on Constitutional rights based on emotion and statistically rare incidents is a lot of things, but liberal isn't one of them.

[beardown]

8. Welcome to the confiscation conundrum.

Although, your message is somewhat backwards as it's usually control pools, control poisons, control fires, ban guns.

Reaganesque simple, but unworkable solutions have severely damage the gun control and gun safety issue as it has driven the two sides farther and farther apart and thus undercut and prevented more manageable and measured solutions.

How?

If you had a pool in your backyard, would you be more inclined to work collectively on pool safety issues and regulations if the person you were working with on regulating higher fences around pools and mandatory pool gate locks kept saying that we need to ban all pools? A better example would be that the person was saying lets require every pool to have a helicopter parked next to it so it could hover over the pool to rescue drowning people, oh, and lets ban pools. Why work with a person with a non-solution whose real goal is to ban pools?

As to the questions about where to post accidental child gun deaths. My question is why post accidental gun deaths and not accidental child fire deaths? It makes it look like either you don't care about fire death kids or you have an agenda or worse yet, both.

[ileus]

10. And how many OD's on legal RXs???

The list goes on and on...


I'll keep my guns, pool, and dishwasher pods.

[ileus]

7. On your person or locked up.

A firearm can't save lives if it's not in arms length, and could become a danger in the wrong hands.