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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:29 PM Jan 2016

Charges: Renton ‘13 hours’ shooter blamed groping stranger

King County prosecutors contend Dane Gallion shot a woman in the shoulder when his gun discharged last Thursday night during a showing of “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.” Gallion, 29, was charged Tuesday with third-degree assault, a felony.

Writing the court, Deputy Prosecutor Margo Martin said Gallion cocked his pistol while taking in the Michael Bay-directed action movie. Investigators claim Gallion said he was cradling his 9 mm pistol because he was afraid of mass violence.

“He could not provide any explanation for why he had put a round in the chamber of his gun,” Martin told the court.

Gallion, a concealed-pistol permit holder, apparently had armed himself with a pistol that didn’t have a safety. Almost all firearms are equipped with safety devices that make it extremely difficult to discharge them accidentally.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/crime/article/Charges-Renton-13-hours-shooter-blamed-6785900.php
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Charges: Renton ‘13 hours’ shooter blamed groping stranger (Original Post) SecularMotion Jan 2016 OP
See how well this works? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #1
What do the actions of the shooter have to do with the rest of us... beevul Jan 2016 #2
no safety Duckhunter935 Jan 2016 #3
I agree with duck hunter, guillaumeb Jan 2016 #4
"So what is your solution to this type of incident?" beevul Jan 2016 #6
Would you mandate this safety training? guillaumeb Jan 2016 #7
It wouldn't be necessary. beevul Jan 2016 #8
You should always have a round in the chamber if you're carrying for SD. ileus Jan 2016 #5

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. See how well this works?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jan 2016

This well armed patriot successfully defended the theater from a terrorist attack. Another success for the NRA crowd.

Will this also be explained as an exception?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
2. What do the actions of the shooter have to do with the rest of us...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jan 2016

What do the actions of the shooter have to do with the rest of us, who don't engage in gun violence?

On edit: Or should I post examples of anti-gunners behaving badly, up to and including cold blooded pre-meditated murder, because they reflect on you in whatever way you think this reflects on us?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. I agree with duck hunter,
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jan 2016

no safety and no sense.

This incident reflects that any idiot can purchase a gun and receive a permit for concealed carry. Does this mean that you are a senseless idiot? NO. But if this particular idiot had not decided that he had to carry a gun in the theater, there would have been no incident.

So what is your solution to this type of incident? Write it off as an accident? Say, oh well, things happen? And if you, or a family member, were shot by this idiot, what would your reaction be?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
6. "So what is your solution to this type of incident?"
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jan 2016
"So what is your solution to this type of incident?"


The same as the solution to people potentially not knowing how to drive: Education.

I've been a supporter of universal gun safety training for a very long time.

Whats your solution?

On edit: Do you support universal gun safety training?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. Would you mandate this safety training?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 06:49 PM
Jan 2016

No legal ownership without approved training by licensed instructors?

That is an excellent idea.

Now, that might cover this particular situation, but how do we deal with the guns/alcohol situation? An interlock system wherein the gun cannot be fired without breathing into a sensor?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
8. It wouldn't be necessary.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 09:52 PM
Jan 2016
Would you mandate this safety training?

No legal ownership without approved training by licensed instructors?


It wouldn't be necessary. Every single person in America would go through firearms safety training in the 12th grade. When I said universal , I meant universal .

Now, that might cover this particular situation, but how do we deal with the guns/alcohol situation?


The same way we deal with people with the cars/alcohol situation. Interlock systems are only demanded of those who prove they have a problem, rather than everyone because there *might* be a problem.

Due process matters, especially where constitutionally protected rights are concerned.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
5. You should always have a round in the chamber if you're carrying for SD.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jan 2016

but that gun should also always be in a proper holster...





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