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Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:52 AM

 

"Oak Lawn, city's Southeast Side lead county in concealed carry permits"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-concealed-carry-cook-county-20160308-story.html

"Let burglars and bandits beware the city's Southeast Side, where residents had the most active concealed carry permits in the city through the beginning of the year.

In Cook County, southwest suburban Oak Lawn leads all in total number, according to data from the Illinois State Police that lists total permits by ZIP code. About 685 residents of the 60617 ZIP code a large four-mile chunk of the lakefront stretching from East 79th Street to 122nd Street, from Lake Michigan to an area bordering the Bishop Ford Expressway hold permits that allow them to carry concealed firearms in public since the state police began issuing them in 2014."

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"Outside the city, the 60453 ZIP code, which covers Oak Lawn with just more than 57,000 residents, leads all of Cook County with 753 permit holders. The ZIP code 60477, which covers much of Tinley Park, came in second with 709; Orland Park had 667; 60411, which covers portions of south suburban Chicago Heights, Sauk Village and Lynwood, had 546; while 60402, which covers Berwyn, had 439.

Illinois became the last state in the nation to grant its residents the right to concealed carry after the law's passage in 2013. Citizens with permits and firearm owner's identification cards are allowed to carry concealed handguns but can be denied, or have law enforcement agencies object to their applications, if they have prior convictions. Permit holders also can have their permits suspended or revoked if they are the subject of a protective order or commit a serious crime."

The required 16 hours of training ($$$) demanded by Chicago and a $150 price tag for 5 years combine to slow the growth of concealed carry in Illinois. But with Chicago crime reaching new record highs ... again, twice the number of murders as last year, a lot of people are saving up and taking advantage of concealed carry. Lots of new gun owners, and all thankfully getting the required safety training, including a 6 hour section on the Illinois laws on the use of deadly force.

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Reply "Oak Lawn, city's Southeast Side lead county in concealed carry permits" (Original post)
DonP Mar 2016 OP
JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #1
DonP Mar 2016 #2
ileus Mar 2016 #3
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DonP Mar 2016 #5

Response to DonP (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:32 AM

1. ... "people are saving up" ...

In Oak Lawn? My impression is the cost of training and permit would not require a great deal of saving, just a big dip into the pocket.

This seems like a fairly well-to-do middle/upper-middle class area.

So, not a great sacrifice to get a legal permit.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:46 AM

2. 16 hours of training can run to $225+ with another $150 for a permit

 

That's a lot of money for some folks to exercise what the courts, the Democrat party and the President have all said is an individual civil right.

In the Chicago area that means fewer minorities have the option. You OK with that?

So how do you feel about poll taxes?

Glad you are flush with cash though.

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Response to DonP (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:49 AM

3. On top of the cost for equipment.

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Response to DonP (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 04:08 PM

4. I'm guessing Oak Lawn residents are relatively flush

probably not rich, but doing fine.

And, compared to some areas of Chicago, not all that diverse.
http://www.clrsearch.com/Oak-Lawn-Demographics/IL/Population-by-Race-and-Ethnicity

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:20 PM

5. Oak Lawn is pretty much middle/working class

 

They got hit really hard with the Cook County 63% property tax increase this year and the 68% state income tax increase a few years back.

The loss of a lot of the manufacturing jobs to Wisconsin and Indiana has driven a lot of them and others to move out of state. We've lost one House seat in the last 4 census and we'll lose another one next round too.

Over 225,000 people have left the state in the past couple of years.

There's a good reason none of the candidates are being seen hugging Rahm or Mike Madigan on the podium, even with the Illinois primary next Tuesday. He's toxic, especially with the AA community, after he sat on the Laquan McDonald tape for his re-election.

BTW, the article was about several Cook County communities, not just Oak Lawn, including some that are over 90% AA.

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