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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:48 AM Apr 2016

Doctors, Nurses and Leaders Want to Restore Funding For Gun Violence Research

Congress was asked by a group of doctors and nurses to let the US Centers for Disease Control research gun violence as a national public health concern, something that it has not done for more than two decades.

Local community leaders and gunshot victims believe that the move could lead to a notable reduction in shootings. However, the Congress refused to spend on gun research.

The pressure is now on for local and national leaders to acknowledge gun violence the same way as the public health concerns do, according to WLKY.

Between 2003 and 2010, the majority of local gunshot victims are indigent, according to a research by UofL professor Dr. Bill Smock. That means taxpayers shoulders the bills.

http://www.counselheal.com/articles/22942/20160408/doctors-nurses-leaders-restore-funding-research-gun-violence.htm
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ileus

(15,396 posts)
1. I just want to carry my pistol into the hospital.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 06:58 AM
Apr 2016

I get tired of leaving it in the South lot every morning.

I don't even want to carry it all day long, I'd be happy to lock it in my upper left desk drawer, it stays locked all the time anyway.


I thought we already knew "guns kill people" what more do they expect to "discover" in their "research"???


 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. We know that cars kill people too and we still do reasearch into crashes...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 07:33 AM
Apr 2016

and use that data to make them safer.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
16. New technology is constantly being introduced into vehicles and roadways
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:59 AM
Apr 2016

    How much new technology is being introduced into guns?
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
3. What is your biggest fear when visiting the hospital?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:14 AM
Apr 2016
I just want to carry my pistol into the hospital.


ileus

(15,396 posts)
4. I visit every day from 8-4:30
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:25 AM
Apr 2016

No fear really inside the hospital, but I don't like leaving my EDC in the car out in the south lot.

If I'm just visiting a hospital I go ahead and carry normally.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. I do leave some at home in the safe, but the EDC
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016

travels with me, it's just part of my life safety regimen. I don't like leaving my firearm at risk of being stolen, and secondary of course is putting my life at risk while on the clock just to make some lawyer happy.

All well such is life when you're working for the man...

Safety first.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
7. research is still allowed, just not advocacy.
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 10:33 AM
Apr 2016

Doctors and nurses are not scientists and those "studies" done by doctors, like Kellermann, did not follow the scientific method including allowing for peer review.
The answer remains and should remain, do research under current rules.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
9. Funny how they all forget that 2013 study, personally ordered by President Obama
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

I guess that one doesn't count, since it didn't deliver the results they wanted and the White House let it drop like a lead balloon.

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
17. +1
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 09:06 AM
Apr 2016

How often did we hear about the NRA not allowing the CDC to do a study?

Sandy Hook happens and POTUS can't get a gun control bill through a Democratic majority in the Senate.

Passes some Exectuive Orders to the CDC and everybody was chomping at the bit for it to be released.

CDC releases study and crickets or now I'm seeing the "well it wasn't a scientific study so I dismiss it and don't bring it up"

Funny how that works .

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
8. "Hampered by an insufficient body of evidence:" Hard to believe given the...
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

...volume of documents and "research" done by foundations and the CDC up to the time the agency was restricted from promoting gun-control.

Perhaps the docs and medical people should expand their focus to include criminologists and others, lest they be accused of trying to crank out tax payer-funded political policy.

sarisataka

(18,619 posts)
11. Doesn't Hemenway turn out
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

2-3 reports and studies a week. Why doesn't the medical community consider those sufficient? Could it be that they consider those reports lacking veracity?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
13. Do you ever feel ashamed of posting these factually misleading articles?
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 05:16 PM
Apr 2016
Congress was asked by a group of doctors and nurses to let the US Centers for Disease Control research gun violence as a national public health concern, something that it has not done for more than two decades.


The above is deliberately factually misleading and you know it.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
14. "Deliberately factually misleading"'
Fri Apr 8, 2016, 08:46 PM
Apr 2016


You are far more diplomatic than I am . In my neck of the woods, we usually use different terminology, most often "lying out yer ass."

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
15. I'm kinda glad he continues
Sat Apr 9, 2016, 08:25 AM
Apr 2016

It's often not apparent that you into bullshit until your face is really right in it.
It might be that it's old dried out bullshit that you have to get that close to it to notice.

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