How The NRA Is Making Bank Off Of Urban Gun Violence

[SecularMotion]

Chicago’s long-standing bad rap on gun violence drew fresh attention in the first months of 2016 when early numbers suggested that the city was facing one of its worst homicide rates in years.

Throughout the decades-long debate over the city’s seemingly intractable gun violence problem, there’s little consensus on what’s behind the scourge; citizens have blamed everything from gang members to gun regulation to scrutiny of the police. In his new documentary, filmmaker Robert Greenwald suggests a different root cause: the NRA.

In the recently released “Making a Killing: Guns, Greed, and the NRA,” Greenwald explores how the lucrative gun industry and the powerful gun lobby puts profit over people by scuttling legislative efforts to address even the most common-sense gun law reforms.

“There’s a profit motive here,” Greenwald said. “Many of these parents are paying a terrible price for it.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/chicago-nra-gun-violence_us_57292f57e4b0bc9cb045133c

[beevul]

1. Nowhere in the article does it actually explain...

Nowhere in the article does it actually explain, how "How The NRA Is Making Bank Off Of Urban Gun Violence".

Particularly in Chicago, Greenwald said the NRA and other gun lobbyists have long exploited racial stereotypes to shape perceptions of urban gun violence by talking in coded terms that tie the problem to “thugs” or “gun runners.”

B as in B, S as in S. You anti-gun folks are the ones that talk about gun running, and even coined the phrase "the iron pipeline".

Mad props for linking to a "piece" about snuffy though.

[SecularMotion]

2. Here's the trailer

[beevul]

5. In other words, you have no proof of it.

Thanks for the confirmation.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

6. No, it's true.

Movies are always true.

Aren't they?

[scscholar]

26. Movies just reflect society,...

like books do.

[pablo_marmol]

13. !!!

Well now that certainly refutes beevul's statement!



So far beyond pathetic.........pathetic isn't even in sight!

[Dr. Strange]

25. Perhaps you should try reading the article more closely. It's spelled out pretty clearly.

Step 1: Trumpet the right the bear arms.

Step 3: Profit.

What part is unclear?

[DonP]

27. Works for the underpants gnomes, not as sure how that works for a 501C3?

[TeddyR]

3. I'd be interested to see evidence

That the NRA is profiting from urban gun violence. Is the NRA selling guns?

[ileus]

11. They sell those limited edition collectors from time to time.

Isn't the NRA a non-profit?

[DonP]

16. Thousands of new Chicago gang member Life Memberships?

This past weekend, Mother's Day weekend, we had 50 shootings and of them, 9 fatal. On track for the highest rate in 20 years.

5 neighborhoods make up 90%+ of those shootings. For details and regular updates; http://heyjackass.com/

So it must be a big jump in membership and maybe a bunch of gang-bangers signing up for Range Safety Officer courses?

But it is "possible" that the drug gangs are sending big contributions to the NRA-ILA lobbying organization.

[gejohnston]

4. Isn't Greenwald the regressive

that called Maajid Nawaz a "porch monkey"? Or was it one of his employees?
https://www.quora.com/What-is-regressive-left-and-who-are-its-examples
My bad, it was one of his employees. Did Greenwald fire the racist fuck?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45048_Writer_for_the_Intercept_Calls_Daily_Beast_Columnist_a_Porch_Monkey

See, I can do the genetic fallacy too. Now that I vented, let's look at some of the substance behind this appeal to emotion and race baiting bullshit based on speculation nothing from someone who knows what they are talking about.

Either way, the trailer is full of shit. The money comes from millions of grassroots members.

citizens have blamed everything from gang members

So the cops and even the ATF and DEA are NRA shills now? It is the gangs and the junkies who pay them for the poison.

The Chicago Crime Commission publication "The Gang Book 2012" gave the statistic that Chicago has more gang members than any other city in the United States: 150,000.[7] The city had 532 murders in 2012, however, it saw a decrease to 413 murders in 2013. Not all murders are gang-related, but the Chicago Police Department states that 80% of all shootings and murders in the city are gang-related, which means that most violence in the city is gang upon gang violence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_population

True believers will go see it to reinforce their opinions. The intellectually weak and lazy might be convinced. Critical thinkers on the fence will see it for the bullshit that it is.

[flamin lib]

7. And the gun fanatics won't see it just 'cause. nt

[friendly_iconoclast]

12. If you have a germane comment to add, we'd all love for you to share it with us.

[pablo_marmol]

14. And you can't explain the righteousness of the OP.......

.......just 'cause.

[benEzra]

18. Back at you. What I see are people trying to use gang violence

as an excuse to go after the peaceable, noncriminal, and nonviolent, and to take from them the kinds of guns that are least involved in the violence.

Your top priorities are to outlaw rifle handgrips and magazines that stick out, and restrict where people with CCW licenses can carry. Why? Other than having completely lost sight of what you are supposed to be fighting for?

[flamin lib]

19. Don't ascribe top priorities to me. You obviously don't know me. nt

[benEzra]

20. Those are the top priorities of the organizations you claim to support.

Do you yourself support, or oppose, bans on "assault weapons" and over-10-round magazines?

[flamin lib]

21. No. The top priority is to reduce gun violence. Don't ascribe otherwise, it makes you look closed

minded and foolish. THEY'RE COMING TO TAKE OUR GINS AWAY!!!1!1!4!

[sarisataka]

22. Keep your mitts

Off my Bombay!

[benEzra]

23. So which is it?

Do you oppose banning "assault weapons" (aka "OUR GINS" in your phraseology) or do you support banning them (e.g. "coming to take them away" a la Australia)?

Seeking to outlaw rifle handgrips/magazines that stick out, when all rifles put together kill fewer people than bicycles annually, shows that the priority is not, in fact, reducing violence. It is reducing gun ownership, completely disconnected from all questions of violence and the reduction thereof.

The "closed minded and foolish" position in this debate is, IMO, ignoring the actual facts of gun use and misuse in this country, and eschewing all pragmatism and common ground in favor of Holy War.

[beevul]

24. When will the proposals you support match that goal?

They sure don't seem to now.

[Eleanors38]

8. After all these years of hyper-violence, Greenwald now discovers the NRA??

Oh, and by the way, a Thug is indeed a Thug, no matter the race.

[beergood]

29. agreed

this is a white thug

[Kang Colby]

9. Who in their right mind would conclude that gang members give a crap about gun control laws?

Willing to sell narcotics and kill over business matters, but for some reason gangsters would be willing to follow and abide by firearms regulations? Please. It's almost as ridiculous a notion as the controller beloved "gun free zone".

[ileus]

10. Another id10t without a clue

I could only dream that companies would sale guns at cost.

[pablo_marmol]

15. The only folks making "bank" from gun violence are The Controllers.............

...........who refuse to accept what indisputable law enforcement stats reveal -- which is that it's the fucking drug trade that's responsible for most of the gun deaths in this country. (edited to add: and suicide -- which they quietly blend with total gun homicide)

They keep trying to convince the public that concealed carry/open carry, "assault weapons", "gun show loopholes" etc. are to blame.

And the "bank" I'm referring to are the thousands of gullible/subservient minds that they're able to add to their 'collection'. The only problem is, it's getting harder and harder to control the narrative given the availability of facts on the net, and the fact that every day honest citizens watch Controllers get their asses handed to them by pro-rights citizens who are able to back up their assertions with links to FBI data. (for example)

[pablo_marmol]

17. SM -- if you truly cared about the victims of gun violence you'd be mad at Kamala Harris

http://213ajq29v6vk19b76q3534cx.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Special-Feature-K-Harris.pdf

[krispos42]

28. They're making "bank" off of your gun-control plans, certainly.

The first six years of Obama's presidency saw record annual gun sales.

Part of your problem is that you and the members of your movement see ANY gun control law as "common sense", and thus see any opposition to your ideas as "profits over people".