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Sun May 22, 2016, 03:46 PM

'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights

Source: The Guardian

'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights

Ex-Texas governor says future of gun rights hangs ‘in the balance’
and Clinton presidency could mean overturning pro-firearms supreme
court ruling


Lois Beckett in Louisville, Kentucky
Sunday 22 May 2016 20.04 BST

The 2016 presidential campaign has put Americans’ gun rights “in the balance”, according to the former Texas governor Rick Perry.

“I don’t think this is overblown rhetoric,” Perry said in an interview outside the National Rifle Association’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. “You know, in campaigns you do have some hyperbole. This is not hyperbole.”

If Hillary Clinton is elected, Perry said, she will nominate a supreme court justice willing to overturn the court’s landmark 5-4 decision in District of Columbia v Heller, from 2008. In that case, the court ruled that Americans have an individual right to own firearms in the home for self-defense.

On Friday, Maya Harris, an adviser to Clinton, said the candidate believed the Heller decision was “wrongly decided”, as it undermined the ability of cities and states “to craft commonsense laws to keep their residents safe”.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/nra-rick-perry-gun-rights-hillary-clinton

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Reply 'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights (Original post)
Eugene May 2016 OP
Eleanors38 May 2016 #1
Puha Ekapi May 2016 #2
CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #3
ileus Jun 2016 #15
LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #4
virginia mountainman May 2016 #5
branford May 2016 #6
Eleanors38 May 2016 #9
virginia mountainman May 2016 #10
pablo_marmol May 2016 #7
Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #8
pablo_marmol May 2016 #11
oneshooter May 2016 #12
pablo_marmol May 2016 #13
virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #14
pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #16
virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #17
pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #18

Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 03:50 PM

1. Guns issue to the GOPers:. The gift what keeps on giving. nt

 

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #1)

Sun May 22, 2016, 05:06 PM

2. Our beloved Party...

...could end this in a nano-second by adopting a truly progressive PRO 2nd stance instead of it's authoritarian regressive prohibitionist approach.

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Response to Puha Ekapi (Reply #2)

Sun May 22, 2016, 05:34 PM

3. There are many people...

 

....who would never vote Republican again if the Dems understood that simple concept.

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Response to CompanyFirstSergeant (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:32 PM

15. We could turn every now "red" state if we were progressive on the 2A.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 08:02 PM

4. I'm impressed

I didn't think Rick Perry knew what the word "hyperbole" means.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun May 22, 2016, 09:10 PM

5. Gun Control is to Democrats

is what Abortion rights are to Repukes...


Been proven time and time again, but yet, they refuse to learn. How many elections must be lost before the light comes on?

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #5)

Mon May 23, 2016, 12:24 AM

6. Support for gun rights actually polls higher than support for abortion rights in many areas.

 

Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 03:09 PM - Edit history (2)

More importantly, I would be far more comfortable with gun control as a matter of conviction if most of the demands had a reasonable chance of actually lowering violent crime.

For instance, universal background checks would not have stopped a single recent mass shooting, ALL rifles, no less purported "assault weapons," account for a tiny fraction of criminal or negligent misuse of guns and magazine size has no correlation at all to crime rates. Further, about a 60 percent of gun-related deaths are suicides, yet the USA still has a comparable suicide rate to most other developed nations, and demonstrably lower than gun control havens like Japan and South Korea.

Even in places that instituted strict gun control like the UK and Australia, any lowering of violent crime cannot be proven to be causally related to such legislation, particularly since these countries had much lower rates of violent crime (firearm and otherwise) that the USA to begin with. The USA has also seen its violent crime rate cut in half over the last few decades, all while gun laws have liberalized across the nation.

Virtually all gun control advocacy is now part of a culture war, largely pitting rural and exurban (and Midwestern and Southern) cultures against urban domains, and has absolutely nothing to do with actual safety.

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Response to branford (Reply #6)

Mon May 23, 2016, 02:06 PM

9. ∆∆ That last sentence.

 

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Response to branford (Reply #6)

Mon May 23, 2016, 02:18 PM

10. Excellent post! nt

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #5)

Mon May 23, 2016, 03:21 AM

7. Your post reminds me of a post on that "other" discussion board. ;-)


A member said precisely what you did in your first sentence, and added that whichever party dropped their pet issue first would gain a distinct political advantage over the other. Can't say I disagree with that assessment.

It truly is a shame that (generally speaking) Democrats can't honestly examine their biases on this issue.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:57 AM

8. The next time we hear about RW talking points remind the pro-Control side it's them

agreeing with Rick Perry.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 01:46 AM

11. Perfect storm coming ashore.

1) Clinton's irrational positions on gun restriction

2) Competitive opponent

3) Justifiably pissed off Bernie supporters

Won't somebody talk me down here? FOR THE LOVE OF DOG..........SOMEBODY?!?!

Edited to add: If it's not obvious, I could really use a hug!

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #11)

Tue May 24, 2016, 07:42 AM

12. Here

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Response to oneshooter (Reply #12)

Tue May 24, 2016, 09:41 AM

13. Thank you brother!


I woke up feelin' alright. Here's one back atya!

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:58 PM

14. Bump...nt

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:18 PM

16. Well thanks, VM, but.......


.........where's my damn hug?!?!

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Response to pablo_marmol (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:13 PM

17. Im not the "Touchy feely type"

What the heck..

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 11:39 PM

18. Thanks. I need all that I can get.

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