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Eugene

(61,592 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 04:46 PM May 2016

'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights

Source: The Guardian

'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights

Ex-Texas governor says future of gun rights hangs ‘in the balance’
and Clinton presidency could mean overturning pro-firearms supreme
court ruling


Lois Beckett in Louisville, Kentucky
Sunday 22 May 2016 20.04 BST

The 2016 presidential campaign has put Americans’ gun rights “in the balance”, according to the former Texas governor Rick Perry.

“I don’t think this is overblown rhetoric,” Perry said in an interview outside the National Rifle Association’s annual convention in Louisville, Kentucky. “You know, in campaigns you do have some hyperbole. This is not hyperbole.”

If Hillary Clinton is elected, Perry said, she will nominate a supreme court justice willing to overturn the court’s landmark 5-4 decision in District of Columbia v Heller, from 2008. In that case, the court ruled that Americans have an individual right to own firearms in the home for self-defense.

On Friday, Maya Harris, an adviser to Clinton, said the candidate believed the Heller decision was “wrongly decided”, as it undermined the ability of cities and states “to craft commonsense laws to keep their residents safe”.

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Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/22/nra-rick-perry-gun-rights-hillary-clinton
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'This is not hyperbole': Rick Perry says Hillary Clinton jeopardizes gun rights (Original Post) Eugene May 2016 OP
Guns issue to the GOPers:. The gift what keeps on giving. nt Eleanors38 May 2016 #1
Our beloved Party... Puha Ekapi May 2016 #2
There are many people... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #3
We could turn every now "red" state if we were progressive on the 2A. ileus Jun 2016 #15
I'm impressed LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2016 #4
Gun Control is to Democrats virginia mountainman May 2016 #5
Support for gun rights actually polls higher than support for abortion rights in many areas. branford May 2016 #6
∆∆ That last sentence. Eleanors38 May 2016 #9
Excellent post! nt virginia mountainman May 2016 #10
Your post reminds me of a post on that "other" discussion board. ;-) pablo_marmol May 2016 #7
The next time we hear about RW talking points remind the pro-Control side it's them Nuclear Unicorn May 2016 #8
Perfect storm coming ashore. pablo_marmol May 2016 #11
Here oneshooter May 2016 #12
Thank you brother! pablo_marmol May 2016 #13
Bump...nt virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #14
Well thanks, VM, but....... pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #16
Im not the "Touchy feely type" virginia mountainman Jun 2016 #17
Thanks. I need all that I can get. pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #18

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
2. Our beloved Party...
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:06 PM
May 2016

...could end this in a nano-second by adopting a truly progressive PRO 2nd stance instead of it's authoritarian regressive prohibitionist approach.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
3. There are many people...
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:34 PM
May 2016

....who would never vote Republican again if the Dems understood that simple concept.

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
5. Gun Control is to Democrats
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:10 PM
May 2016

is what Abortion rights are to Repukes...


Been proven time and time again, but yet, they refuse to learn. How many elections must be lost before the light comes on?

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
6. Support for gun rights actually polls higher than support for abortion rights in many areas.
Mon May 23, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

Last edited Mon May 23, 2016, 04:09 PM - Edit history (2)

More importantly, I would be far more comfortable with gun control as a matter of conviction if most of the demands had a reasonable chance of actually lowering violent crime.

For instance, universal background checks would not have stopped a single recent mass shooting, ALL rifles, no less purported "assault weapons," account for a tiny fraction of criminal or negligent misuse of guns and magazine size has no correlation at all to crime rates. Further, about a 60 percent of gun-related deaths are suicides, yet the USA still has a comparable suicide rate to most other developed nations, and demonstrably lower than gun control havens like Japan and South Korea.

Even in places that instituted strict gun control like the UK and Australia, any lowering of violent crime cannot be proven to be causally related to such legislation, particularly since these countries had much lower rates of violent crime (firearm and otherwise) that the USA to begin with. The USA has also seen its violent crime rate cut in half over the last few decades, all while gun laws have liberalized across the nation.

Virtually all gun control advocacy is now part of a culture war, largely pitting rural and exurban (and Midwestern and Southern) cultures against urban domains, and has absolutely nothing to do with actual safety.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
7. Your post reminds me of a post on that "other" discussion board. ;-)
Mon May 23, 2016, 04:21 AM
May 2016

A member said precisely what you did in your first sentence, and added that whichever party dropped their pet issue first would gain a distinct political advantage over the other. Can't say I disagree with that assessment.

It truly is a shame that (generally speaking) Democrats can't honestly examine their biases on this issue.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
8. The next time we hear about RW talking points remind the pro-Control side it's them
Mon May 23, 2016, 08:57 AM
May 2016

agreeing with Rick Perry.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
11. Perfect storm coming ashore.
Tue May 24, 2016, 02:46 AM
May 2016

1) Clinton's irrational positions on gun restriction

2) Competitive opponent

3) Justifiably pissed off Bernie supporters

Won't somebody talk me down here? FOR THE LOVE OF DOG..........SOMEBODY?!?!

Edited to add: If it's not obvious, I could really use a hug!

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