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Eugene

(61,592 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:39 PM Jun 2016

EU to tighten guns rules despite concern it will restrict hunters, collectors

Source: Reuters

World | Thu Jun 9, 2016 2:05pm EDT

EU to tighten guns rules despite concern it will restrict hunters, collectors

VISNOVA, CZECH REPUBLIC/LUXEMBOURG | BY JAN LOPATKA AND GABRIELA BACZYNSKA

European Union governments should agree tighter gun control laws on Friday in the wake of Islamist shooting attacks in France and Belgium, despite opposition from some states which say they will hurt only law-abiding enthusiasts.

The Czech Republic is among the loudest critics of rules that EU officials expect to secure comfortable majority backing when the 28 interior ministers meet in Luxembourg on Friday. It argues the measures will not prevent criminals acquiring weapons but will penalize hunters and collectors.

Since the attack on Charlie Hebdo magazine in January 2015 by men armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles apparently bought in central Europe, France has pushed for a crackdown. It redoubled its efforts after the attacks in Paris on Nov. 13.

Prague was among states seeking to water down the original proposals to ensure hunters, sports shooters, collectors and museums can hold weapons, including semi-automatics capable of firing many rounds per minute. Switzerland, which is outside the EU but cooperates on such issues, along with Finland and others also sought exemptions for civilian national defense groups.

The Czech Republic has liberal gun regulation by European standards, with about 775,000 legal guns and rifles in the country of 10.6 million people. Despite the fact that the original proposal was diluted, gun owners in the Czech Republic are still angry with the looming changes.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-eu-guns-idUSKCN0YV25T
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EU to tighten guns rules despite concern it will restrict hunters, collectors (Original Post) Eugene Jun 2016 OP
Laws like that are one way that... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2016 #1
Didn't realize the Czech Republic had such progressive gun laws TeddyR Jun 2016 #2
I can't help but wonder if the Germans and Russians imparted the impulse. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #3
The Czechs have a long standing firearms tradition. Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #4
That they do. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #5
Two of my favorite pistols are from the Czech Republic. ileus Jun 2016 #9
Let me get this straight, gejohnston Jun 2016 #6
Naaahhh... Puha Ekapi Jun 2016 #7
It seems this species of stupidity thrives all over the world. beevul Jun 2016 #8
Glad I live in a somewhat free part of the world. ileus Jun 2016 #10

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,470 posts)
1. Laws like that are one way that...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jun 2016

...you can make sure that terrorists have to pay more for weapons that law abiding folk can't have.
Laws like that are a prime waste of time, money and effort.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
2. Didn't realize the Czech Republic had such progressive gun laws
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 03:52 PM
Jun 2016

Good for them! I also don't recall hearing a lot about crime or mass shootings in the Czech Republic. Maybe their guns are different than US "gunz" and don't commit crimes all on their own?

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
4. The Czechs have a long standing firearms tradition.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016

They've produced some very high quality guns for a couple of centuries.

 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
5. That they do.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

The VZ. 58 is one of my favorite rifles. To the untrained eye it looks like an AK variant, but to a connoisseur, the distinction is clear. I recently read a controller article posted on DU that had VZ. 58s labeled as "AK-47s". I cringed.

Model 58s use a short stroke piston system, with an operating rod that is detached from the BCG. Different mags than AKs which kind of sucks but all VZ. 58 mags are BHO which is kind of awesome. The furniture is this wood-impregnated plastic, which looks awesome. People call it "beaver barf". It has that old school hi-tech look which kind of reminds me of bakelite. Hi-tech in the sense that it was considered such in the 1950s.

Chambered of course in 7.62x39. The receiver is milled as compared to the stamped AK-47. Yes, I am familiar with the whole milled vs stamped thing in the AK enthusiast community and I prefer stamped.

CZ pistols, need I say more?

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
6. Let me get this straight,
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jun 2016

The first attack they bought the AKs, pistols, Skorpin SMG, and a rocket launcher from a mobster at a Brussels train station parking lot, and the second was picked up off a "dark web" site in Germany.
The terrorists bought black market automatic weapons, and the anti democratic fucks on the EU commission think banning registered semi autos from licensed target shooters and hunters will actually do something.

Puha Ekapi

(594 posts)
7. Naaahhh...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

They know it won't do squat to stop terrorists, but it does give them more control over the law abiding.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
8. It seems this species of stupidity thrives all over the world.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 05:50 AM
Jun 2016

Action: A fox attacked the chickens.

Reaction: Lets go defang the wolves, that will fix that damn fox.


I'm not sure that words have been created to adequately describe just how stupid that logic is, but it is easy to see that America isn't the only nation to have a portion of the population that suffers from it.






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