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Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:04 PM

Senate set to reject gun control bids, new compromise sought

Source: Reuters

Politics | Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:29pm EDT

Senate set to reject gun control bids, new compromise sought

WASHINGTON | BY RICHARD COWAN

The U.S. Senate's strongest push in years to tighten gun control was likely to fall short on Monday while lawmakers tried to forge a compromise by later this week that might keep firearms away from people on terrorism watch lists.

The deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history last week has spurred quick action in Congress, but none of the four bills getting votes later on Monday was expected to achieve the 60 votes needed for passage in the 100-seat chamber, as Republicans and Democrats have not been able to reach consensus.

Republicans and Democrats have offered two proposals each to expand background checks on gun buyers and curb gun sales for individuals on terrorism watch lists after the massacre in an Orlando nightclub.

But Republicans and their allies in the National Rifle Association gun lobby say the Democratic bills are too restrictive and trample on the constitutional right to bear arms. Democrats attacked the Republicans plans as too weak, and all of the measures were expected to lose in near party-line votes.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:19 PM

1. Voting on gun control bills puts congressional members on record with their vote.

They can run but they cannot hide from their record. With 80% of Americans wanting bills passed it should not be hard to vote to pass the bills.

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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:50 PM

2. If that is true..Than....

Why does voting for gun control, tend to be one of the last votes that congressional member makes??


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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:00 PM

3. They do not want to be on record with 80% of Americans wanting gun control bills passed.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:04 PM

4. Well -s o much for that..."Four gun policy measures failed to pass the 60-vote threshold to move

forward."

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 10:09 PM

5. They know what their voters want...

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Response to ileus (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:54 PM

10. I'm old enough to remember "The Moral Majority is Neither" bumper stickers.


Pro-restriction supporters are in a similar bubble that the "moral majority" was then. They have no idea how politically devastating it is to go after the most popular rifle in the country based on the way it looks. They are clueless as to how stupid this makes Democrats look, and how it ruins our credibility on all other issues.

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Jun 21, 2016, 07:19 AM

6. Is this the tide turning...?

 

Again...?

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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 02:01 PM

7. ban assault rifles for those on terror watch lists - at least

What Dems might do is to create an 'assault weapons ban' for those on a terrorist watch list.
That is to say, if not a total gun ban for them, at least ban those on a terrorist watch list from being able to buy assault rifles such as the sig mcx or the AR15, These both use a low weight 0.223 or the similar nato round which are so light they blunt rifle recoil so as to make shooting more accurate as the rifle needs not be re-aimed as much after firing shots, as do bullets with heavier weight & larger calibers.
These assault rifles using these low weight bullets are 'en vogue' for mass shootings due the same reasons soldiers like them - can carry more bullets, light recoil, & higher accuracy & lethality. At least they wouldn't be able to get assault rifles, while still being able to exercise their (barf) 2nd Amendment rkba.

Also, the nra is fos when saying a ban on all those formerly on a terrorist watch list (as recent orlando shooter) might not be deterred by a ban on those currently on a terrorist watch list.
Some 'formerly's' indeed would be deterred, as there would be a 'threat' of being identified as having once been on a terrorist watch list, and this in itself would inhibit many of those people from even desiring to try to purchase a gun, for either an irrational fear of being reported to cops & quickly arrested, or being exposed by the gun dealer to the community he lives in, iow paranoia.

As far as 'law abiding americans' being prohibited from buying a gun if they are accidentally on a terrorist watch list ban, the gun lobby makes the absurd conclusion that all of these people would even want to buy a gun. Most likely would not even want to buy a gun, unless they were truly terroristic of course.
Most all of the rest should not complain severely about being accidentally put on one since they could simply go to sheriff or authority & provide proof that they are legal beagles, and weighing the positive benefits from a terrorist watch list a true citizen should understand. True terrorists generally could not do this.

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Response to jimmy the one (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:47 PM

8. What makes "assault weapons" special that they need more restrictions than other rifles?


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Response to jimmy the one (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:12 PM

9. Ban black plastic

 

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