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Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:19 PM

 

How can anybody be against this? (cross post)

If you see a gun, DON'T TOUCH, run away and get an ADULT!!!!

And publicize projectchildsafe.org

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027958220

Curious at the lack of answers from our resident "firearms Experts"

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Reply How can anybody be against this? (cross post) (Original post)
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 OP
calimary Jun 2016 #1
COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #2
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #3
COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #4
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #5
COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #6
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #7
awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #9
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #10
awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #11
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #12
lastlib Jun 2016 #13
gejohnston Jun 2016 #14
pablo_marmol Jun 2016 #16
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #17
Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2016 #18
gejohnston Jun 2016 #8
SeattleVet Jun 2016 #15

Response to Duckhunter935 (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:54 PM

1. Good question, Duckhunter935.

VERY good question.

Sounds like a great idea to me.

I just discovered projectchildsafe.org, myself. I hope various kinds of gun-curbings or gun-mitigation become trends.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Original post)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:38 PM

2. A university (I believe Yale was in the lead) did a study on young

children who had been through programs that taught them exactly to do that. When they tested them, they found that the children, almost without exception picked up and handled the 'gun' used for the testing. Seems that teaching them to do that doesn't overcome youthful curiosty. Unfortunately.

Here's a link about that experiment:

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:43 PM

3. So we should not even try?

 

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:45 PM

4. Not what I said. But the only non-biased evidence so far

seems to indicate it's not very effective.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:48 PM

5. Best is to secure firearms

 

If children are around

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:48 PM

6. Absolutely. Unfortunately, it seems that many people don't do it. nt

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:54 PM

7. Most do

 

It is the ones that don't that make the news. Remember there are 80-100 million firearms owners out there.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 06:37 PM

9. And we need to start locking up people

 

who do not secure their guns when their guns are involved in negligent homicides. Can't secure your gun, and your kid blows his (or a friend's) head off, then off to prison with you.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 06:46 PM

10. I have no issues with that

 

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 06:51 PM

11. Cool...

 

So much of this could be prevented with a little care.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 06:53 PM

12. Indeed

 

That is why I try and post about securing firearms

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 10:14 PM

13. Or any homicide.

Or, for that matter, ANY shooting of a person.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 10:51 PM

14. are you saying that self defense should be criminalized?

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Response to lastlib (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:47 AM

16. Inability/unwillingness to respond to #14 noted. NT

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Response to lastlib (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:04 AM

17. Yep, those police should all be locked up

 

They are dangerous

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Response to lastlib (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 03:10 PM

18. I am also curious to know whether or not you seek to criminalize self defense.

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #2)

Sun Jun 26, 2016, 04:01 PM

8. I would have to see the study before I would call it unbiased

Last edited Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:31 AM - Edit history (1)

the the story certainly is not. Granted, NBC is the leader in faking stories the other three aren't too far behind. This one used statistics that counted teens shot in gang battles as the same as a little kid picking up parent's gun. The actual number of that is about 50. That was either incompetent or dishonest reporting, take your pick. The fact that used misleading statistics, I say dishonest.
That said, I'm skeptical of any abstinence only based "education". Just telling kids not to do something without a better explanation than "because I said so" doesn't cut it. My firearms safety training started with a demonstration of what a .357 will do to a watermelon.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:19 AM

15. When I was about 7 we visited my grandparents in Tennessee.

There was always a .22 rifle next to the kitchen door, and a .45 M1911 Colt on the fireplace mantle. My father took me and my younger sister out to the backyard with the rifle, set up some tin cans and taught us safe handling and operation and basic marksmanship. Then he obliterated an apple with one of those little .22 cartridges to show us how much power was in that small round.

We were told in no uncertain terms that we were never to touch these items unless it was handed to us by an adult. We went through a box of shells, learned gun safety, and had a wonderful time. And none of us kids ever laid an errant hand on those guns.

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