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X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:46 PM Oct 2016

An updated comparison of TX CHL Holders vs the 21+ yoa public.

Many moons ago I noticed that Texas was publishing statistics about how many CHL holders there are in the state, and how many times those licensees are convicted of crimes. With help from the state's own demographics department, I compared them to the rest of the state that is 21 years or older.





Sources:
1 - Conviction Data: http://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/chl/reports/convrates.htm
2 - Number of Licensees: http://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/chl/reports/demographics.htm
3 - Population Data: http://txsdc.utsa.edu/

This compares apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Of the population of CHL holders, chl holders are convicted of crimes at what rate per 100,000? Of the population over 21, minus the number of CHL holders, how often is this group convicted of a crime per 100,000?

And just for shits and giggles, how do these rates compare to each other? Well, it seems that the rates have never been so far apart.

Fancy that.


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An updated comparison of TX CHL Holders vs the 21+ yoa public. (Original Post) X_Digger Oct 2016 OP
Really interesting! TXCritter Oct 2016 #1
They are issued to anyone who meets the statuatory criteria (clean record, minimum age). benEzra Oct 2016 #4
I'd like to see what requirements have changed over that time span. JonathanRackham Oct 2016 #2
This confirms similar data from over 30 years ago. Same as it ever was. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #3
IIRC that conviction rate is for all crime, not gun related? DonP Oct 2016 #5
Raw data discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2016 #6
 

TXCritter

(344 posts)
1. Really interesting!
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 11:59 PM
Oct 2016

I like the declining trend for CHL carriers from 96 to now indicating perhaps a degree of increased discipline either in granting CHLs or in CHLees themselves.

benEzra

(12,148 posts)
4. They are issued to anyone who meets the statuatory criteria (clean record, minimum age).
Wed Oct 12, 2016, 10:27 PM
Oct 2016

Law enforcement in TX (and most other states) cannot arbitrarily deny permits, which is as it should be. Otherwise, you end up with a situation like California or NYC, where permits are preferentially given to friends, political donors, or the rich and powerful. Or like NC used to be years ago, where you could be denied a pistol purchase permit or carry license for having the wrong color skin or the wrong political views.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
5. IIRC that conviction rate is for all crime, not gun related?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 10:13 AM
Oct 2016

I can't find the older threads and notes on this study, so I could be wrong.

But I do recall the control ans getting all twisted up trying to claim these "convictions" were all crimes with their CCL, so that proved to them how dangerous carriers were.

The older report identified that the conviction rate included all crimes, felony and misdemeanor, and was not necessarily related to the use of a gun in the crime involved in the conviction.

So for statistics, a DUI or Disturbing the Peace can count as a "conviction" the same as an armed robbery?

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