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HAB911

(8,880 posts)
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 10:00 AM Apr 2017

The company you keep

Last edited Thu Jul 6, 2017, 08:16 AM - Edit history (1)

The company you keep, 1st in a series




WAYNE LAPIERRE

CHRIS W. COX

SHERIFF DAVID A. CLARKE, JR.

SECRETARY OF INTERIOR RYAN ZINKE

LT. COL. ALLEN WEST (RET.)

NEVADA ATTORNEY GENERAL ADAM LAXALT

SENATOR TED CRUZ

GOVERNOR RICK SCOTT

U.S. REPRESENTATIVE CLAY HIGGINS

ANTONIA OKAFOR

SENATOR LUTHER STRANGE

SENATOR ROB PORTMAN

SENATOR DAVID PERDUE
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Alea

(706 posts)
5. Well it depends
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 03:38 PM
Apr 2017

If you're saying trump hangs out with gun rights supporters of the republican party and the nra, then yep, it's obvious. The repub party supports gun rights and the 2nd amendment so it's a no brainer, however your post doesn't really fit the sop of this group and could have just as easily been posted in the GD, or even the gun control reform group. Please know I am not telling you where to post. That's just an observation I made.

You chose to post it here so I have to wonder if it was a jab at pro gun democrats in this rkba group. Kind of like saying " hey people in this group that support rkba, here's the company you keep." After all, your post was kind of vague with just a tweet link and a list of names, with no personal commentary from yourself. Thus me asking about the point of the post. No offense intended.



pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
6. Yes. It is *terribly* obvious.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 07:37 PM
Apr 2017

You are employing the cheap, slimy 'guilt by association' tactic. Lacking the ability to appeal to the intellect, Controllers are compelled to engage in ugly appeals to emotion.

By all means -- keep reminding voters how dishonestly so many Dems roll. Our nation isn't burning hot enough yet!

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
8. That sort differ from Beauregard Sessions and his anti-cannabis fixation only in their choice of...
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 12:08 AM
Apr 2017

...what particular 'evil' that they seek to 'save' the nation from.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
7. Yes, it is - you're obviously reaching because you sense imminent political defeat...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 11:52 PM
Apr 2017

...and the downfall of discriminatory and corrupt "may-issue" laws. It was *you* that posted the
following in the other group (emphasis added):

https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212137

Gorsuch & Supreme Court Justices to Consider Gun Case That Could Expand 2nd Amendment

The U.S. Supreme Court, including the newly confirmed conservative Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch, will soon conference to discuss a gun-rights case from California that has the potential to expand the Second Amendment.

In Peruta v. California, the justices would decide whether the Second Amendment entitles law-abiding citizens to carry handguns outside of the home for self-defense, including concealed carry when open carry is prohibited by state law. Edward Peruta and other gun owners who were denied concealed-carry permits by the San Diego County sheriff appealed the case to the Supreme Court in January, The San Diego Tribune reported earlier this year. California has some of the strongest gun laws of all 50 states. Regarding concealed carry, every state and Washington, D.C., allows it in some form.

Peruta first filed a lawsuit in 2009 to challenge the county’s policy of requiring “good cause” to obtain a concealed carry permit, saying the policy violates the Second Amendment. The strongest concealed carry laws in the country require applicants to demonstrate good cause or a justifiable need as to why she or he needs a permit. In California, for example, good cause exists to issue a concealed carry weapons permit when there is a clear and present danger to the applicant or the applicant’s spouse, family or employees, according to the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.

http://www.newsweek.com/guns-america-supreme-court-considering-gun-case-could-expand-second-amendment-584408


The nightmare is almost complete



HAB911

(8,880 posts)
9. Guns Banned From Trumps NRA Speech, 2nd Amendment Rights Ignored
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 10:02 AM
Apr 2017

by Colby Hall

Well if this isn’t a slippery slope, I don’t know what is.

In what can only be described as an attack on our second amendment rights, the secret service has reportedly banned attendees from carrying fire arms into the convention hall where President Donald Trump intends to address the NRA later today.

Forget Obama’s effort to increase background checks (which were reasonably presented as a way to take ALL guns away) THIS is much worse, and I suspect that the true believers in the NRA will do the right thing and either boycott the speech or force their guns to be pried from their “cold, dead hands.”

During his campaign, President Trump and the National Rifle Association developed a predictably cozy relationship. So it should come as no surprise that a top priority for the new president would be to speak to the NRA at their spring convention today in Atlanta.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-boycott-guns-banned-from-trumps-nra-speech-2nd-amendment-rights-ignored/

hack89

(39,171 posts)
10. NRA conventions have previously banned guns
Fri Apr 28, 2017, 10:38 AM
Apr 2017

it depends purely on the local laws or policies of the venue operators. In this case, it is hard to imagine many people getting worked up about it - they knew when they invited Trump what the policy was.

You are trying way too hard here. Perhaps you should slow down and put some thought into your efforts.

jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
13. rkbasnbi
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 11:25 AM
Apr 2017

hack: NRA conventions have previously banned guns -- it depends purely on the local laws or policies of the venue operators. In this case, it is hard to imagine many people getting worked up about it - they knew when they invited Trump what the policy was.

Yeah but what if a group of trump hating liberal democrats attending the convention had pulled out all plastic guns they had smuggled in & tried to shoot him, how would trump supporters in the audience had subdued these radical leftwing loonies without guns themselves?
Sheesh, you nevah hoid that the only thing stops bad guys with guns, is good guys with guns?
Stop supporting gun banning nazis trying to infringe on the right to keep bear arms at nra conventions.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. There are extremist on both sides of the issue
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 12:32 PM
Apr 2017

Making fools of themselves with poorly thought out memes and broadbrush stereotypes. The majority in the middle just sit back and laugh. While enjoying our guns.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,479 posts)
15. re: "...what if a group of...had pulled out all plastic guns..."
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 02:08 PM
Apr 2017

What if? Well what if they had and what if the Secret Service did their jobs?
What if the there was a bit of a riot or stampede?
What if some near those with plastic toys recognized them and simply pointed and laughed?

Stop arguing with folks here about decisions made by the Secret Service.
Maybe go to DC and take it up with them.
Oh, BTW, don't fly United to get there.

spin

(17,493 posts)
16. Are you aware that Trump has had a concealed carry license in New York City...
Mon May 8, 2017, 02:30 AM
May 2017

for years? This article dates back to 2010.

Lifestyles of the rich and packin': High-profile celebrities seeking gun permits on the rise
BY ROCCO PARASCANDOLA ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Monday, September 27, 2010, 4:00 AM


J.Lo and her 2-year-old twins can rest easy at night: Daddy is packing heat.

Singer Marc Anthony is one of dozens of celebs, millionaires and high-profile athletes authorized to carry a concealed weapon in the city, records show.

And the number of A-listers who have guns is growing.

***snip***

Other big names licensed to carry a gun include actor Robert De Niro, shock jock Howard Stern and supermarket mogul John Catsimatidis. Billionaire Donald Trump and his son, Donald Jr.; celebrity lawyer David Breitbart, and artificial-heart inventor Robert Jarvik can also carry steel, police records reveal. (...h added)
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/lifestyles-rich-packin-high-profile-celebrities-seeking-gun-permits-rise-article-1.441377


People who have carry permits usually are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are often friends of other Second Amendment supporters. It should be no big surprise to anyone that Trump hangs with the guys you mentioned.

spin

(17,493 posts)
19. In the Big Apple it's fairly rare for a "little person" to get a ....
Sat May 13, 2017, 04:13 AM
May 2017

concealed weapons permit. It seems you have to be rich or well connected to obtain one, perhaps both.

Trump is not a little person in many different ways.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
18. The company *I* keep are the RKBA defenders here on DU.
Wed May 10, 2017, 05:53 PM
May 2017

Damn good company AFAIC.

I haven't spent a moment interfacing with the individuals on your list. Wild swing and miss.
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