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I heard somewhere that this can't really happen (Original Post) discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 OP
Gun companies have been sued for defective products. Hangingon May 2017 #1
I know discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #2
Sorry, should not have jumped. Hangingon May 2017 #9
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act does allow you to sue Abnredleg May 2017 #3
Thanks, no worries discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #4
Unpossible sarisataka May 2017 #5
fake news for sure discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #6
I told you this is unpossible: sarisataka May 2017 #10
re: "...misrepresenting what the law says???" discntnt_irny_srcsm May 2017 #11
Well, the fact that this suit did happen just proves that the PLCAA is unnecessary petronius May 2017 #7
This is why so many departments stick with Glocks, beside their light weight. pablo_marmol May 2017 #8
Most agencies go with Glock due to the cheap prices. ManiacJoe May 2017 #12
There's not much wrong with Glocks ... Straw Man May 2017 #13
Interesting! Thanks. pablo_marmol May 2017 #15
Never shot a P320, tortoise1956 Jun 2017 #16
And thank you T56! pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #17
Exactly. pablo_marmol May 2017 #14

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
3. The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act does allow you to sue
Mon May 22, 2017, 01:42 PM
May 2017

If the product is defective, then you have a cause of action. What you can't do is sue the manufacturer for selling a legal product that is subsequently used in a criminal or negligent manner.

Edit: Missed the sarcasm tag.

sarisataka

(18,651 posts)
5. Unpossible
Mon May 22, 2017, 02:12 PM
May 2017

I have been assured by "experts" and folks who can disarm a person and field strip a 45 before the previous holder can react that the PLCAA is a special carve out which prohibits all lawsuits against gun manufacturers...

Obviously this is fake news

sarisataka

(18,651 posts)
10. I told you this is unpossible:
Thu May 25, 2017, 04:32 PM
May 2017

see- https://www.democraticunderground.com/126212210
just posted this morning.

"

On October 26, 2005, President Bush signed into law S. 397, the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act,” a bill that prohibits victims of the gun industry’s negligent practices from filing lawsuits in America’s courts. No other industry in the country benefits from such special legal protection.
"

Would the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence stoop to misrepresenting what the law says???

petronius

(26,602 posts)
7. Well, the fact that this suit did happen just proves that the PLCAA is unnecessary
Mon May 22, 2017, 10:59 PM
May 2017

and should be repealed. Or something like that...

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
8. This is why so many departments stick with Glocks, beside their light weight.
Tue May 23, 2017, 03:56 AM
May 2017

If it aint broke, don't fix it......and Glocks are reliable, inexpensive pistols.

That said, I'll always sign off on underhanded, back-door "gun control".

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
12. Most agencies go with Glock due to the cheap prices.
Tue May 30, 2017, 08:59 PM
May 2017

Glock sells to agencies very cheaply because Glock wants to maintain the marketing that says "more agencies use Glock than any other manufacturer".

Straw Man

(6,624 posts)
13. There's not much wrong with Glocks ...
Wed May 31, 2017, 01:14 AM
May 2017

... but the SIG P320 fixes pretty much everything that is, and adds a couple of new tricks that benefit both the company and consumers, like the interchangeable grip modules. Repeat sales AND user-customization: win-win.

Anecdotally, the problems with the P229 and the NJ Troopers were related to their using steel-cased ammo for practice. SIG claims that there were no failures using the brass-cased duty ammo. Many manufacturers advise in their user's manuals against using steel-cased ammo. My opinion is that steel-cased ammo is only for use in firearms of the former Eastern Bloc, which were designed to use it. For the rest of the world, it's like trying to run your car on kerosene. But that's an argument for another day.

I expect the SIG P320 to start making large inroads into the LE market, especially after its recent adoption by the Army.

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
15. Interesting! Thanks.
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:33 AM
May 2017

I'll have to give the SIG P320 a test drive next time I'm at the range, which won't be far off.

tortoise1956

(671 posts)
16. Never shot a P320,
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jun 2017

but I did rent a P250 (forerunner) once when I was looking for versatility, and was very impressed. The P320 is an insanely modular weapon system. If I were interested in a single platform for use in target shooting/home defense/CCW, I would definitely be looking hard at the P320.

I ended up buying an EAA Witness Elite Match instead of the 320 (as a target shooter). I already had both home defense and CCW weapons, and it was cheaper to buy a dedicated match pistol. Besides, the EAA is awesome - it makes me look like I can still shoot straight, in spite of my shaky 60-year-old hands!

pablo_marmol

(2,375 posts)
17. And thank you T56!
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 10:01 PM
Jun 2017

Based on my very positive experience with my Sig upper, I'm not surprised at what has been reported.

Thanks to Lasik, this 60-yr-old does pretty well at the range, but it takes plenty of work in many areas to keep up with those young whippersnappers!

GO 56'ers!!!
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