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Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:45 PM

Cornyn Says He'll Work With Democrats on Gun Background Checks

Source: Bloomberg

Cornyn Says He'll Work With Democrats on Gun Background Checks

By Ari Natter
November 7, 2017, 3:38 PM EST

→ Senior Republican says current system has too many gaps
→ Air Force failed to report Texas gunman’s earlier conviction


Texas Republican Senator John Cornyn said he’ll work with Democrats in the chamber to close gaps in national background checks for firearm purchasers after the discovery that the gunman who killed 26 people in a Texas church slipped through the system.

Cornyn told reporters Tuesday that he’s talked with Democratic Senators Chris Murphy, Jeanne Shaheen and Martin Heinrich “and I think we are interested in trying to find a way to work together to deal with improving the background check system and fixing these holes.”

Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, identified as the killer in the mass shooting on Sunday, shouldn’t have been able to purchase the semi-automatic rifle he used in the attack because while in the Air Force he was convicted in a court martial of domestic abuse in 2012. The Air Force admitted Monday that it failed to report the conviction to the FBI’s national database of criminal records that is used for background checks.

That failure is being investigated by the service’s inspector general, and the Defense Department also is reviewing procedures to ensure records in other cases are being reported properly. Senate Armed Services Chairman John McCain of Arizona promised “rigorous oversight” of the investigation.

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Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-07/cornyn-says-he-ll-work-with-democrats-on-gun-background-checks

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underpants Nov 2017 #1
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flamin lib Nov 2017 #3
Fred Sanders Nov 2017 #6
friendly_iconoclast Nov 2017 #7
underpants Nov 2017 #4
gejohnston Nov 2017 #5
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Response to Eugene (Original post)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:50 PM

1. So Dylan Roof wasn't proof enough?

Oh I get it.

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 04:59 PM

2. not the same thing

Roof was a maybe (and the ATF knew where to find him if there was a problem.) This asshole was not put in the system by the USAF after the DV conviction.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:25 PM

3. You'd argue with a post, wouldn't you? Nt

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Response to flamin lib (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 06:34 PM

6. Apparently gun care is more important than people care to gun lovers.

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:48 AM

7. Straight from the manual, page 10:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/748675/gun-violencemessaging-guide-pdf-1.pdf


#1: ALWAYS FOCUS ON EMOTIONAL AND VALUE-DRIVEN ARGUMENTS ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE,
NOT THE POLITICAL FOOD FIGHT IN WASHINGTON OR WONKY STATISTICS.


#3: CLAIM MORAL AUTHORITY AND THE MANTLE OF FREEDOM.







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Response to gejohnston (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 05:46 PM

4. No. Roof had a drug arrest. An FBI glitch/error and S. Carolina law allowed it

S. Carolina law says get a response on the background check OR 3 days - whichever comes first. There was no response so the gun store sold him YES HIM the gun.

One look at that freak, I wouldn't let him cut my grass let alone sell him a gun.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/10/dylann-roof-gun-fbi-background-check-failed-charleston-shooting

According to reporters who met Comey at FBI headquarters on Friday, the FBI chief said Dylann Roof was only able to purchase the gun he is accused of using in the attack at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston because of flaws in the FBI’s background check system.

Questions were raised immediately after the shooting because Roof was arrested on a felony charge in February. That should have stopped him purchasing a gun, but this information was not properly handled by the FBI, either being improperly entered into the federal computer system or used incorrectly by an analyst, according to the Washington Post.

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Response to underpants (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 7, 2017, 06:01 PM

5. the difference is

Federal law, not SC law, says 3 days. If derogatory information shows up in the system after that, the ATF is notified and retrieve the firearm. The ATF had more than ample time to do that. Also, it depends on the arrest (journalists are rarely bright or curious to research, UK sources are not much better.) If he was charged and awaiting trial, then yes. If the charges were dropped, then he was legal. The flaw was that the NICS employee called the wrong local PD to find out.

In this case, there was a DV conviction (a BCD and year in the brig), but the USAF simply didn't tell NICS. Not only that, he escaped from a mental health facility (after being involuntarily committed). El Paso PD did enter that information in NCIC. However, the FBI didn't enter it in NICS. Also, he was denied a carry permit in Texas because of these two disqualifying factors. Most states do fingerprint-based criminal background checks and do not use NICS (unless the applicant has no fingerprints).

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 01:53 AM

8. Apparently, you've messed up a perfectly good Two Minutes' Hate with pesky facts:




"Facts don't do what I want them to"

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