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Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:29 PM

Polls, what they mean, why they're good

At the end of this OP there is a poll but I'll get to that. Thanks to anyone who votes here and thanks especially for sharing your thoughts.

Now this is the gun group. Establishing relevance and clarifying compliance with the SOP is important me. There have been links and references to polls that say US residents favor everything stricter gun laws to bans on every semi-auto firearm. I won't go into linking to them and quoting them. I don't want to spend time and effort addressing what they do and don't really say or what some people say that they say (and in some cases know that those polls don't say what those folks say that they say.)

Here's what I say: first, asking some folks about gun laws is similar to asking certain uniformed and inexperienced trump voters if they are for or against Baba ghanoush. I happen to love Baba ghanoush but I accept the fact that many people have no idea what it is. Asking someone unfamiliar with current gun laws if they favor stricter gun laws would be like asking me if I like the current weather in Kuwait or is the current climate in Tokyo preferred. Second, this is why I support most all of the Democratic candidates because they are generally ethical, knowledgeable and moral folks. There are plenty of issues about which I have little knowledge. I trust those candidates to inform themselves on the issues when laws arise that they will vote for or against. Let's discuss the issues and, if you have a candidate in mind (either side) let's hear about him/her.

Now I said there would be a poll so here it is.
In light of the group SOP, will your resources (time and donations) between now and November 2018 be focused more on...
6 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
...your state level primaries
3 (50%)
...your state level general elections
0 (0%)
...national primaries
0 (0%)
...national general elections
0 (0%)
...both general elections
3 (50%)
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Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll

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discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2017 OP
Alea Dec 2017 #1
discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #2
Alea Dec 2017 #3
discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2017 #4
Alea Dec 2017 #5

Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Original post)

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:20 PM

1. I voted local and state because for the foreseeable future, Alabama Democrats don't have a prayer

at having a say so in the General Elections for President. I will still vote and try to get people around me to vote, but we are solid red.

Working hard now to get people I associate with to vote Jones. I'm in College but because I spent the last 8 years in the Service I'm 4-8 years older than most of my College friends. Trying to convince them to go vote on the 12th to make sure Moore don't win is like pulling teeth. They were all for voting for Hillary but for some reason don't see the importance of this special election coming up between Jones and Moore. I've gotten a few to commit and am working on others. Hopefully we can win this thing. I'm fearful that if only older people vote, Moore is going to win. Younger people hate him but are not taking this vote serious : (

As for politicians - I feel they don't know crap about firearms. Depending on which side of the isle they work, they vote on gun laws whichever way the political wind blows.

Thanks for your post. You're one of my favorite posters on DU. Always smart and informed.

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Response to Alea (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 09:20 AM

2. "...not taking this vote serious"

That's a real shame. I love young people because they're usually the voice of change. The only way to make progress from where we are is to change. Everyone needs to collectively take the rudder and steer. Just drifting politically in many ways got us where we are today.

Thanks for your kind words. My current job is kicking my ass and so is my sinus infection so I don't quite have as much to say. I will be more active when things get a bit easier.

Not only do politicians have not so much experience with nor knowledge of firearms but most non-owners have little interest as well. I look for reason in people and candidates. Of the 100% spectrum of beliefs (from the radical "ban everything that goes bang" side to those who think the only firearm law we need is "there's sales tax on that" ) I tend to remove the 10% of ideas at each end sort through the middle. Candidates are often guarded about their ideas on firearm law.

I'm not a single issue person as far as support for a candidate but probably half of my posts are about gun issues.

Aside from supporting Democrats I wouldn't vote Republikon any time soon for fear a local R would follow the line of the GOP (great orange plague.)

Thanks again and keep up the fight.
BTW what was your MOS/specialty?

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:28 PM

3. 35F - Intelligence Analyst

Hope you get to feeling better. Sinus problems bite.

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Response to Alea (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 11:18 PM

4. Thanks for the healing wishes, it varies better and worse

Back in the day I worked as a civilian contractor for an organization based at Vint Hill Farms, VA. They changed names a couple of times. I guess that's par for the course, being in the suspicion business.

Much to my chagrin I believe I've not thanked you for your service so please accept this thanks now.

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Response to discntnt_irny_srcsm (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 12:26 AM

5. Thank you, and you are welcome.

I usually tell people "Thank you for allowing me to serve."

I also served under a great Commander-in-Chief. Joined as Bush was going out, ETS before Trump came in! I know about VHFS and am hoping you and I didn't just trigger word ourselves onto a list

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