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1. The problem is not that controls are punitives

The problem is that gun rights advocates are sold on the idea that the right to own guns is a 100% unlimited right that was always intended to be free of restrictions, costs, tracking, registrations, accountability measures, or any other type of thing that any gun right advocate might consider an "infringement." Never mind that there has never been any other unlimited right in all of human history, the founders gave us this one.

That's why both Amanpour and gun rights advocates agree that imposing a single, inconsequential limit is actually a big deal.

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3. NRA may have participated in gun control in the past

But they are more radical than they used to be, and do in fact oppose all forms of gun control. This discussion has always been about firearms and always been understood not to include things like nerve gas. I am not aware of any movement on the conservative to enact anything that enjoys broad popular support, like universal background checks.

The NRA are okay with preventing felons from owning guns. But that's a long standing restriction that nobody is talking about changing. And it's in keeping with another long-standing conservative approach to felons -- restricting or eliminating their rights as much as possible, such as not restoring their voting rights.

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5. I prefer compromise, I see none on the other side

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You are essentially saying the current NRA tactic not to compromise is a tactic to stymie legislation they don't like by not compromising. Well it works. Nothing has been done for years, despite certain laws being supported by the vast majority of the public. The one modest reform that made perfect sense and put in place by Obama was undone by Trump.

On edit: Fixed an accidental edit.

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8. I didn't make compromise conditional, and nothing in my post would lead you to think that.

But you've basically said gun rights activists don't want to compromise and blame their behavior on liberals.