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Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:39 PM

Gun show report: A seller's market.

Went to a small gun show over the weekend. If you want an $800 SKS, a bottom of the line AR-15 for $900, a bunch of M1 Carbines for $1200 to $2000 each, or a Norinco AK-47 with a thumbhole stock for $2500, this was the show for you! All the 9mm or .45 ACP FMJ you could ask for at $50 to $70 a box. 5.56x45 starts at a buck a round, green tip SS109 $1.50 to $2 a round. 7.62x39 also $1 a round.

One guy did have a bunch of interesting early 20th Century pistols, but none of them had price tags. After I asked out of curiosity how much he wanted for the Spanish Jo Lo Ar (a weird 9mm Largo handgun whose slide can be retracted using only one hand), I found out why. In nice shape it's a $900-ish gun. His was beat up, and he wanted $1200.

Magazines weren't too overpriced, oddly enough, so I picked up a Magpul 60 round drum for my AR. AR drums are notoriously unreliable, but from everything I've seen Magpul is the exception.

One bright spot: At a previous show a guy had an AMT Automag IV .45 Magnum (not a typo, it's an obscure caliber) with a price tag of $1,000 on it. The Blue Book says it's only worth $600-ish in nice shape, but the last few that sold on Gunbroker all went for $1500 to $2000, so I took a chance and bought it. A short time later, I decided to see what I could get for it, and had an auction house list it. The auction just ended, and it sold for $2500.

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Reply Gun show report: A seller's market. (Original post)
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 OP
msongs Jan 2021 #1
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #6
canuckledragger Jan 2021 #9
Straw Man Jan 2021 #10
sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #11
Straw Man Jan 2021 #12
sarisataka Jan 2021 #16
friendly_iconoclast Jan 2021 #17
yagotme Feb 2021 #18
EX500rider Apr 18 #22
krispos42 Jan 2021 #13
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #15
The Polack MSgt Jan 2021 #2
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #5
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #3
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #4
rgbecker Jan 2021 #7
Dial H For Hero Jan 2021 #14
USALiberal Jan 2021 #8
EX500rider Apr 17 #19
Dial H For Hero Apr 18 #20
EX500rider Apr 18 #21

Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:42 PM

1. the purpose of guns is to kill people nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:09 PM

6. Many guns are designed for that purpose, granted. Not all.

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 12:00 AM

9. They are designed to kill

That's their primary purpose. no amount of weasel words can change that.

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Response to canuckledragger (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 04:24 AM

10. Weasel words?

I think you'd better check on your definition of "designed." This gun was designed to break little clay disks as they fly through the air. It's long, it's heavy, and it only holds one round -- and not a magnum round at that. It's slow to reload. If I told the designer that I wanted something to kill with and was presented with this, I would fire that designer.

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Response to Straw Man (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 08:05 AM

11. Target practice shooting serves...

...to improve skill with a killing machine.
Or is the pictured gun incapable of killing?



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Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #11)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 10:59 PM

12. To practice killing birds.

That's how trap and skeet originated. I have no ethical problem with that. Do you?

Trap and skeet guns aren't for practice killing humans. Humans don't fly.

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Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 11:12 AM

16. Gun control's favorite catch-22

"Guns are dangerous items capable of killing. No one should be allowed to own a gun without training and demonstration of proficiency. "

"Training and target practice is just learning how to commit murder with a killing machine. Anyone who does that should not be allowed to own a gun."

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 06:45 PM

17. With that 'logic', sport shooting should be a hotbed of future spree killers.

 

By your interlocutor's reasoning, many (if not most) of those participating
should have been turned into a bunch of Raymond Shaws by now.

All that practicing, y' know...

ref: The Manchurian Candidate

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Fri Feb 12, 2021, 06:40 PM

18. This.

None of my firearms have killed anyone since I have owned them (many are WW1/WW2 surplus). I read them the riot act when they arrive at my home. Some have resided here for almost 40 years. Long time for a "killing machine" to go without killing.
:}

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Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:44 PM

22. "Or is the pictured gun incapable of killing?"

My steak knives and car are also not "incapable of killing" Does not mean they were designed for that.

This rifle was designed for Olympic target shooting, not to kill people for example:

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 19, 2021, 11:26 PM

13. Well, I didn't buy mine to tickle people

I'm aware that I might be the victim of a violent crime and that I may need to employ deadly force to protect myself and/or my family.

And since I'm fat, out-of-shape, and don't have martial arts skills, I'm really not interested in going at somebody either with my hands or a melee weapon.

Although I guess, technically, round is a shape.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #13)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:33 AM

15. Exactly so. I'll freely grant that most of the guns I own were designed to kill people.

In the admittedly unlikely event that I need to defend my life, I'm in exactly the same boat. At close to six decades old and in poor physical condition, I wouldn't stand a chance if attacked by a young man(or group of men) bent on doing me harm unless I have a firearm...at which ppoint I do have a chance.

Presuming I do find myself in such a situation, I see no reason to handicap myself by limiting myself to a "sporting" gun. Hence, while at home:



When not at home:

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:08 PM

5. Supply and demand. The latter is off the charts.

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 09:56 PM

3. Wow. Not the type of post I thought I would see in the GUN CONTROL Group

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:06 PM

4. The name of the groups is Gun Control and RKBA.

I presume you overlooked tha latter. For that matter, the use of firearms for self defense is explicitlly mentioned in this group's Statement of Purpose.

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:14 PM

7. Was that an online Auction? Was the buyer local?

How do you get the item to the buyer and do you check his background?

What auction site do you use?

I'm asking because I have a bunch of old guns I want to get rid of before someone gets hurt. Shotgun, 22 etc.

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Response to rgbecker (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 20, 2021, 02:15 AM

14. Yes it was, and I have no idea who bought it.

The auction either lets the buyer pick it up if he's a local, or mails it to a dealer in his area. In either case, a federal background check is conducted.

The site is Brand Used Works. Odd name, but they're excellent. They make periodic road trips and will make arrangements to pick ujp firearms you wish to consign (if there are enough people in your area who have contacted them). An excellent deal for the seller, they only charge 10% of whatever the gun sells for, and they do all the work.

It would be an good way to dispose of firearms you have no use for.

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 11:02 PM

8. LOL ok! Nt

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 03:46 PM

19. Yeah happy to to see the price of the WWI/WWII bolt actions going up also..

...got my Mosin Nagant's and Turkish Mauser for around $99 awhile back and only $150 for my Finnish M-39 and under $200 for my Swiss Schmidt–Rubin K-31 and under $150 for my Cz-52 Czechoslovak pistol and all are in nice shape and goin UP in price.
The M-39 will probably end up being the best investment.

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #19)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:00 PM

20. Want to double your money on that M39?

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:37 PM

21. : ) It is a straight shooter too..

I am no marksman but got a 3 inch grouping at 100y with open sights and vintage ammo with it. It's a 1943 SAKO.
Had my C&R license back in 2005 and bought a bunch of antique rifles for a fun investment.

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