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The Mouth

(3,288 posts)
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 10:58 AM Nov 2021

Support of gun control just hit its lowest point in a decade

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/23/politics/gun-control-gallup-poll/index.html

Just 52% of Americans polled now say that the "laws covering the sales of firearms" should be stricter than they currently are, the lowest number that Gallup has measured on the question since 2014.

Lots of us gun humpers out there.
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Support of gun control just hit its lowest point in a decade (Original Post) The Mouth Nov 2021 OP
I'm a gun owner and support gun control. I think the more people that have guns walkingman Nov 2021 #1
Well, support for more restrictions is maybe at a low. discntnt_irny_srcsm Nov 2021 #2
Yeah, and a whopping 9% think we should loosen existing laws. AndyS Nov 2021 #3
I'm a gun owner and support common sense gun control. PTWB Dec 2021 #4
Well said. The Mouth Dec 2021 #5
what are you bragging about? jimmy the one Mar 2022 #6
Take the thread title up with CNN The Mouth Mar 2022 #7
Just a bit of irony here. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2022 #8
1000 perfunctory apologies jimmy the one Mar 2022 #9
That's reasonable. The Mouth Mar 2022 #10
far right wing drivel alert jimmy the one Mar 2022 #11
I *will* be quite pleased The Mouth Mar 2022 #12
I'm glad you mentioned CMP. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #13
yagotome [below] Good to hear that. Lucid Dreamer Mar 2022 #15
They are also selling .45's, yagotme Mar 2022 #16
CMP DOES sell to civilians. yagotme Mar 2022 #14

walkingman

(8,385 posts)
1. I'm a gun owner and support gun control. I think the more people that have guns
Tue Nov 23, 2021, 11:25 AM
Nov 2021

and especially open and concealed carry, the more fear people have and therefore think they need a gun also? FEAR...that is the factor that continues to control our society and it seems to be getting worse and worse.

Also, according to the article - "Changes in the party occupying the White House may also influence preferences for gun laws. Generally, the public favors stricter laws when Republicans are in office and less strict laws when Democrats are." An example of our tribal politics once again.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
3. Yeah, and a whopping 9% think we should loosen existing laws.
Sat Nov 27, 2021, 10:38 AM
Nov 2021

Gunners get a hardon over the slightest of 'good news' for gunz.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
4. I'm a gun owner and support common sense gun control.
Sun Dec 19, 2021, 04:32 PM
Dec 2021

What I don't support are gun grabbers and arbitrary, ineffective, and antiquated gun laws that burden gun owners and don't protect the public from gun crime.

We could pass Universal Background Checks, Safe Storage Laws, and Minimum Standards for Concealed Carry licenses. We could do it in this political climate, with the support of gun owners, if only we actually tried to negotiate instead of demand.

The Mouth

(3,288 posts)
5. Well said.
Mon Dec 20, 2021, 08:41 PM
Dec 2021

Most gun owners have no problem with any of that. I would not mind having to demonstrate proficiency including safe handling, every 5 or 10 years. Even if I, and many, consider it a right, rights come with responsibilities. I speak as one who had a father who carried long after he should have....

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
6. what are you bragging about?
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 08:05 AM
Mar 2022

gallup: In general, do you feel that the laws covering the sale of firearms should be made more strict, less strict or kept as they are now?
.......................More strict ...Less strict ..Kept as now.. No opinion
2021 Oct 1-19 ..... 52 ................... 11 ..... 35 .......... 1


I do not understand what you are bragging about. By a 52% to ~47% margin, americans want stricter guns laws re firearm sales than those opposed or neutral, notwithstanding 'kept as now' voters who think they are fair enough. While that's near parity it still comprises a slim majority of support for stricter firearm sales laws. This would equate to about 140 million american adults wanting stricter gun laws, and you strut about because this fell off a few million?

Your OP thread title is misleading, since just a few aspects of gun control have declined in support; you evidently {edit: mislead} out of misinterpreting what you read in the report you linked to.
Here are other polls accessed from your link:

Quinnipiac, apr 2021, albeit a year old: More than 6 in 10 Americans (62 - 33 percent) say there should be restrictions on gun owners who want to carry guns in public places.
A plurality of Americans, 48 - 40 percent, think the United States would be less safe if more people carried guns.

Pew, sept 2021, near same date as gallup poll: Roughly half of Americans (53%) favor stricter gun laws, a decline since 2019, according to the Center’s April 2021 survey. Smaller shares say these laws are about right (32%) or should be less strict (14%).
Mirrors your gallup link, near parity with slight edge to stricter gun laws, vs status quo or less strict.

I'm wondering if your next thread might see you strutting about with: 'Support for universal background checks slips to 92%, lowest support in two decades'......

The Mouth

(3,288 posts)
7. Take the thread title up with CNN
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:07 AM
Mar 2022

and WTF are you sputtering on about with the use of 'bragging'.

You can disagree without using childish language like "strutting", "Bragging", or accusing me of lying.

discntnt_irny_srcsm

(18,591 posts)
8. Just a bit of irony here.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:22 AM
Mar 2022

Opinion polls in my OPINION are mostly meaningless, at least the ones about gun laws. From my observations at least half the population has no idea about what gun laws we have now.

There are some questions that, if included in a poll, the answers would be seriously entertaining.
Here's a few of my suggested questions:
Please define "machine gun" and give an example. (Free reply essay)
Can you buy a cruise missile at a gun show? (yes/no)
Has an aircraft ever been shot down with a .50 cal rifle, domestically? (yes/no)
Is an assault weapon the same as an assault rifle? (yes/no)

jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
9. 1000 perfunctory apologies
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 09:36 AM
Mar 2022

mouth: and WTF are you sputtering on about with the use of 'bragging'.

This: Lots of us gun humpers out there.

You can disagree without using childish language like "strutting", "Bragging", or accusing me of lying.

OK, I'll retract the lying part since you did indeed cite cnn, but not the other two, since you were, by virtue of the post & your remark.

The Mouth

(3,288 posts)
10. That's reasonable.
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 10:52 AM
Mar 2022

I hope to genuinely be strutting and bragging when SCOTUS enacts nationwide Constitutional Carry and throws out the gun control legislation of 1934 and 1968 as well as the capacity of any state or local governments to do a damn thing about anybody other than people convicted of a violent crime or under a restraining order to own or carry anything they please .


jimmy the one

(2,717 posts)
11. far right wing drivel alert
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:39 PM
Mar 2022

mouth: I hope to genuinely be strutting and bragging when SCOTUS enacts nationwide Constitutional Carry and throws out the gun control legislation of 1934 and 1968 as well as the capacity of any state or local governments to do a damn thing about anybody other than people convicted of a violent crime or under a restraining order to own or carry anything they please.

Yeah, I was right the first time. Bragging and Strutting, doing a far rightwing tap dance.
You seem to be quite pleased with what a rightwing packed supreme court is likely to do, and conversely quite displeased as to what the 3 liberal justices will object to, in the upcoming sessions.
Let me remind you mister, that democratic candidates have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections. That means that the 'will of the people' was predominantly with democrats over the past 30 years, and that includes gun control efforts.
Had the 'will of the people' prevailed over the antiquated electoral college, the supreme court might today be 7 - 2 to the left. At least 6 - 3. It should have been this way.
So revel in this perverted outlook that you somehow 'won' or will win. Like with the shall issue ccw changing chart which shows how stinking republican legislatures rammed thru shall issue ccw against the will of most state's electorates, you live in a twisted rightwing horror show.
Your opinion above is not the democratic approach to gun control. It is a twisted and perverted dream of rightwing nutjobs, not true democrats.
You are as far to the right on gun control as most nra members.

The Mouth

(3,288 posts)
12. I *will* be quite pleased
Thu Mar 3, 2022, 01:54 PM
Mar 2022

when voting and getting a firearm are equally easy, which is to say default unless disqualified for VERY good reasons, with government doing everything feasible to facilitate.

Even better would be getting the CMP much more widely used and supported, including sales of surplus to citizens and training in schools as an elective sport.

No one should have any more say over what I own or carry than over the gender of my life partner, what art I create or consume, or what substances I wish to indulge in.

Lucid Dreamer

(589 posts)
13. I'm glad you mentioned CMP.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 AM
Mar 2022

When I was in high school back in the early '60s Ohio had widespread marksmanship competition.

On Friday afternoon after lunch I would check out a Remington 513T rifle and 150 rounds of ammunition from the shop teacher and carry it in school until I walked home.
On Monday morning I turned the rifle back in. There were 6 of us on the rifle team.
We traveled to schools around the state for competition. Some of the schools had shooting ranges in their basements, some used NG armories and some met at outdoor ranges.
Nobody got shot.

I still carry a gun. I never shot anybody.

Lucid Dreamer

(589 posts)
15. yagotome [below] Good to hear that.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 06:26 PM
Mar 2022

I bought a Garand M-1 from what was then DCM, Director for Civilian Marksmanship, back around 1997.
Got one of the last that were sold for less than $200.
I think I got the 30-06 from them, too. Not sure since I've purchased a lot since.

yagotme

(3,819 posts)
16. They are also selling .45's,
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 08:06 PM
Mar 2022

but there is a wait list, and you may well be on it for awhile before your lucky number comes up. I went to Anniston, AL several years ago, picked up a Rock Island 1903, receiver dates to 1914, but was rebarreled in '42, and an H&R M-1. The 1903's were getting pretty thin, but at the time, there were still rows of carbines. 2 or 3 years later, they were out. They have an auction spot, for rare/unusual arms (like low serial #'s), but you're probably going to pay a pretty penny for a lot of those.

yagotme

(3,819 posts)
14. CMP DOES sell to civilians.
Fri Mar 4, 2022, 04:23 PM
Mar 2022

Takes a while, more paperwork than a retail sale, but if they have an M-1 Garand in stock when you send in your order, you'll get one (upon passing check, of course). And, cheaper than a gun store, or auction. Sadly, they have been out of carbines for some time.

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