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This. Sh*t. Has. Got. To. STOP! (Original Post) lastlib Nov 2021 OP
It Won't SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #1
It won't, and you won't. Dial H For Hero Nov 2021 #2
Is this a general rant, or is there something new and specific which prompted it? rsdsharp Nov 2021 #3
The school shooting in Michigan? whathehell Nov 2021 #4
If it didn't stop with 20 dead primary school kids... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #6
Possibly. Possibly not. rsdsharp Nov 2021 #7
More likely than not, I'd say. whathehell Nov 2021 #11
It happens occasionally DashOneBravo Nov 2021 #12
It won't end, it won't change sanatanadharma Nov 2021 #5
If you have an great and innovative ideas how to control the actions of random individuals... krispos42 Dec 2021 #14
Change always seems impossible before it happens. old as dirt Dec 2021 #20
Fear drives gun purchases. guillaumeb Nov 2021 #8
Target shooting drove my gun purchases. ... spin Dec 2021 #15
Gun addiction and fear are features of our species, it seems, not bugs NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #9
This is beginning to sound like the MADD movement. AndyS Nov 2021 #10
My guns are under control. krispos42 Dec 2021 #13
You and what army? (N/t) spin Dec 2021 #16
I am a fan of irony. discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #17
I am a gun owner in favor of common sense gun control & reform. PTWB Dec 2021 #18
Why at the federal level? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2021 #19

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. If it didn't stop with 20 dead primary school kids...
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nov 2021

...who expects it to stop just because of three dead teens?

rsdsharp

(9,161 posts)
7. Possibly. Possibly not.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:57 PM
Nov 2021

Another context free OP. Clairvoyance isn’t one of my skills, although I thank you for your response. I haven’t been following the news today.

sanatanadharma

(3,693 posts)
5. It won't end, it won't change
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 06:54 PM
Nov 2021

To say it won't end, it won't change, is to say that Americans are willing to accept any level of death and gore (as long as bullets do the destruction).
I reject the idea that Americans, among all cultures, are so evil as to never change the 2nd amendment regardless of how much children's blood stains the halls and walls of schools, churches, and malls.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
14. If you have an great and innovative ideas how to control the actions of random individuals...
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 10:31 AM
Dec 2021

...by all means, share them.

There is no organization to blame, defeat, dissolve, or punish. These were not the actions of an organized unit of people with leaders and strategy and tactics and goals. It was a the action of a single person, perhaps aided and abetted by a parent.

spin

(17,493 posts)
15. Target shooting drove my gun purchases. ...
Thu Dec 2, 2021, 12:40 AM
Dec 2021

I do own two handguns I legally carry concealed but I didn’t buy them because I was afraid. I was living in a bad section of Tampa and I wanted an equalizer. I have moved since I retired but still carry concealed out of a 25 year habit.

AndyS

(14,559 posts)
10. This is beginning to sound like the MADD movement.
Tue Nov 30, 2021, 07:46 PM
Nov 2021

That was a movement to change the attitude toward a behavior and a 'culture'. A movement that shamed a culture into changing a behavior.

There weren't a lot of new laws passed. A few were more stringently enforced. The real outcome was that those who were the problem became aware that they were the problem. They became ashamed at the foolishness of their behavior when it was pointed out to them.

This is an older version of the mask/vax controversy; truth and facts against 'freedom'.

If you're not feelin' it yet, just wait.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
13. My guns are under control.
Wed Dec 1, 2021, 10:26 AM
Dec 2021

The fault lies with the shooter and possibly the shooter's father. Period. End of blame game.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
18. I am a gun owner in favor of common sense gun control & reform.
Sun Dec 5, 2021, 09:51 PM
Dec 2021

At the federal level we need universal: background checks, red flag laws with due process safeguards, safe storage mandates, and an entire rewrite of our NFA to bring it out of antiquity and into the 21st century (this rewrite will even be popular amongst most gun owners).

Unfortunately, there is no chance that any meaningful gun control gets passed in the current political climate. Zero.

That's just the political reality. If Sandy Hook didn't even move the needle, what will?

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