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GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:03 PM May 2012

OKLAHOMA: Gov. Mary Fallin says she'll sign open carry gun measure

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-gov.-mary-fallin-says-shell-sign-open-carry-gun-measure/article/3675105

NORMAN— Gov. Mary Fallin said Saturday she will sign a bill into law that will allow Oklahomans with concealed handgun permits to carry their weapons in the open.

SNIP

Oklahoma will become the 26th state to allow open carrying of handguns, she said.

“We believe it's a responsible piece of legislation that allows licensed gun owners to be able to open carry if they choose,” Fallin, a Republican elected governor in 2010, said afterward. “If they choose not to, they don't have to. It also has sufficient protections in it that will allow businesses, certainly government institutions, and those who don't want guns on their facilities to have those protections, too.”

Fallin said she will sign Senate Bill 1733 this week; the measure won final legislative approval last week in the Senate. The Senate voted 33-10 to pass it and the House of Representatives passed it 85-3 earlier this month.
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Notice the vote totals. At 33-10 and 85-3 means many Democrats voted for the bill too. More Frontlash! Yeah!
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OKLAHOMA: Gov. Mary Fallin says she'll sign open carry gun measure (Original Post) GreenStormCloud May 2012 OP
The LASHBACK, it hurts....... Oneka May 2012 #1
Look for more gun deaths..... jaysunb May 2012 #2
Does this qualify as... ManiacJoe May 2012 #4
Please cite to evidence of your claim coming true.... PavePusher May 2012 #13
It is a step in the right direction. ManiacJoe May 2012 #3
At one point... NewMoonTherian May 2012 #9
Oh, boy, gun culture can wear their "pride" on their belt. What a bunch of losers. Hoyt May 2012 #5
what a broad brush smear. Tuesday Afternoon May 2012 #10
Dearest Hoyt: You never fail to remind one of the scorpion Simo 1939_1940 May 2012 #11
It's hard to imagine something more progressive than open carry...small victory ileus May 2012 #6
We've been fighting for this for a long time. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #7
I prefer CC to OC on principle Glaug-Eldare May 2012 #8
Florida recently changed their concealed weapons law ... spin May 2012 #12
UPDATE: The law has been signed. NewMoonTherian May 2012 #14
Thanks for the update. GreenStormCloud May 2012 #15
I think I'm coming to love that word. Yup! NewMoonTherian May 2012 #16

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
2. Look for more gun deaths.....
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:11 PM
May 2012

Americans (some) never learn a thing, but I'm pretty sure I know what's behind this insanity.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
4. Does this qualify as...
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

... a "the streets will run red with blood" post?

> Look for more gun deaths.....

 

PavePusher

(15,374 posts)
13. Please cite to evidence of your claim coming true....
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:54 AM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 15, 2012, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

anywhere else in the U.S.

We'll wait....

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
9. At one point...
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:57 PM
May 2012

it was changed to permit-free OC, but that was pretty much a poison pill designed to sink the bill. We're just thrilled to have gotten what we have. The next step will be constitutional carry, but we're expecting a long, uphill fight for that as well. It's pretty pathetic to have to struggle for decades to restore such basic freedoms.

Simo 1939_1940

(768 posts)
11. Dearest Hoyt: You never fail to remind one of the scorpion
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

in the tale of the scorpion and the turtle:

A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on his back across a river. "Are you Scorpion mad?" exclaimed the turtle. "You'll sting me while I'm swimming and I'll drown."

"My dear turtle," laughed the scorpion, "if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you. Now where is the logic in that?"

"You're right!" cried the turtle. "Hop on!" The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly said:

"Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there'd be no logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?"

"It has nothing to do with logic," the drowning scorpion sadly replied. "It's just my character."

ileus

(15,396 posts)
6. It's hard to imagine something more progressive than open carry...small victory
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

for freedom, but a victory none the less....

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
7. We've been fighting for this for a long time.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:33 PM
May 2012

Would have been nice if Brad Henry would have signed it when it got to his desk two or three years ago. It looks like we're finally going to join the rest of the country in the 21st century.

Glaug-Eldare

(1,089 posts)
8. I prefer CC to OC on principle
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:34 PM
May 2012

having never carried either way, but I like legal open carry for one main reason -- it ensures that somebody carrying a gun with no criminal intent is not breaking the law when he inadvertently displays part of it, or when he is adjusting his clothes. If it would be legal to just wear it openly, there's no question of whether it's legal to accidentally display the butt of his gun when he's reaching up over his head at the grocery store.

spin

(17,493 posts)
12. Florida recently changed their concealed weapons law ...
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:21 PM
May 2012

so as to allow the inadvertent flash of a concealed weapon for example when he is doing just what you describe.

Rick Scott Approves Bill to "Briefly" Flash Your Gun at People
By Matthew Hendley Mon., Jun. 20 2011 at 11:20 AM

Florida doesn't have an open-carry law to show your piece off in public, but it's now OK to "briefly and openly" flash your firearm to the populace.

Since Gov. Rick Scott signed SB 234 into law Friday, it's been legal to show off your hardware -- but just for a little bit.

Here's the addition to Florida Statutes that bans openly carrying your weaponry:


It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2011/06/rick_scott_approves_bill_to_br.php


The full text is available at http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2011/0234/BillText/er/HTML

While I usually carry a snub nosed .38 in a pocket holster in my pants, I occasionally carry a revolver in an inside the waist band holster under a jacket in the Florida winter. I have had a gust of wind blow my jacket back and prior to the passage of this law, I might have had problems with the authorities if someone in the parking lot would have noticed.




NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
14. UPDATE: The law has been signed.
Tue May 15, 2012, 03:13 PM
May 2012
Oklahoma Governor Signs Open Carry Bill Into Law

The law goes into effect November 1st. Lots of work to do between now and then, educating citizens and, especially, cops.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
15. Thanks for the update.
Tue May 15, 2012, 05:19 PM
May 2012

That's 26 NRA backed bills that have been signed into law in various states.

Frontlash! Yeah!

NewMoonTherian

(883 posts)
16. I think I'm coming to love that word. Yup!
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:45 PM
May 2012

EDIT to add: When are you folks in Texas going to get on the ball and demand that your leaders start recognizing the 2nd amendment again?

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