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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:18 PM Aug 2012

I want to rant. You don't need to reply if you disagree because this is just a rant

I am not looking for gun owners to support their position. I have heard and read it for months now.

My rant is this. Concerning the guy that shot his ass in a movie theater. Had I been there I could have gotten shot. It is a matter of chance where the bullet went. Anyone there could have gotten killed. Someone's kid could have been killed.

In the Aurora shootings 12 people were killed and a large number were wounded.

The people who could have been killed and those who were killed are victims. They are victims without any recourse.

Just about any place you go you could be shot today. There are no laws to prevent that. As it stands where ever you go a person could be carrying a gun and could accidentally or purposely kill you.

How is a dead person going to get any justice?

When we talk about rights, is there a right to life? The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is in the constitution.

Now if someone accidentally takes that right away by accidentally shooting you, you have no recourse.

You cannot scream "hey you are trampling on my rights!" you're fucking dead.

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I want to rant. You don't need to reply if you disagree because this is just a rant (Original Post) upaloopa Aug 2012 OP
oh please. and thanks! this oughta be good for a Large Popcorn Tuesday Afternoon Aug 2012 #1
Life isn't safe and you could end up dead Lurks Often Aug 2012 #2
feel better now? gejohnston Aug 2012 #3
It's not a safe world Reasonable_Argument Aug 2012 #4
Water is wet , now what? orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #5
I'm giving this only a 4 out of 10 potential Rant Points slackmaster Aug 2012 #6
Meh... Moving on. n/t HALO141 Aug 2012 #7
What reality do you live in? Life has never been safe, nor ever will be. Ashgrey77 Aug 2012 #8
Indeed. You are a fluke of the Universe. slackmaster Aug 2012 #9
You chances of being struck by lightning are greater. GreenStormCloud Aug 2012 #10
Medication helps many who pipoman Aug 2012 #11
"You cannot scream "hey you are trampling on my rights!" you're fucking dead." holdencaufield Aug 2012 #12
Now you know how I feel. ileus Aug 2012 #13
+ 1. Selfish people carry guns in public. Hoyt Aug 2012 #14
How could you have gotten shot? Jenoch Aug 2012 #15
How does anyone who is killed get justice? Atypical Liberal Aug 2012 #16
"There are no laws to prevent that" Union Scribe Aug 2012 #17
The greatest threat to life Glassunion Aug 2012 #18
Interesting perspective. : ) nt rDigital Aug 2012 #20
No, upaloopa, the constitution does contains no reference to S_B_Jackson Aug 2012 #19
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
2. Life isn't safe and you could end up dead
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:24 PM
Aug 2012

any numbers of ways just walking out the door and getting into your car. If you want safe, stay home and hope your dwelling doesn't catch fire, because life isn't safe and the gun laws aren't likely ever to be your satisfaction.

As for shit for brains in Nevada, yank his permit and make sure he doesn't get another in his lifetime.

And yes I own guns.

 
4. It's not a safe world
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:25 PM
Aug 2012

Never has been, never will be. Just put it out of your mind and go about your day. It's what the majority of us do.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
6. I'm giving this only a 4 out of 10 potential Rant Points
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:27 PM
Aug 2012

Insufficient profanity, too brief, not very compassionate, no abuse of text treatments such as italics or bold font, and I didn't spot a single misspelled word or inappropriate use of punctuation.

ETA I rarely respond to the content of a rant, but here I'll just say the world is a dangerous place. You are at far greater risk of being injured or killed in a traffic accident, or even a fall, than of being struck by a bullet from someone handling a firearm negligently in a public place. In the unlikely event that happens, it's very likely that you would survive. Your recourse, or "justice," would be to sue the perpetrator for damages.

Ashgrey77

(236 posts)
8. What reality do you live in? Life has never been safe, nor ever will be.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:35 PM
Aug 2012

You can die at any moment. Live with it, everyone who has ever existed has had to deal with that fact of life, you are no exception.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
10. You chances of being struck by lightning are greater.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:28 PM
Aug 2012

More people are struck by lightning each year than are illegally shot by CCW holders.

Won't you be just a dead if you die from some other kind of accident?

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
12. "You cannot scream "hey you are trampling on my rights!" you're fucking dead."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:04 PM
Aug 2012

I beg to differ -- I've already ordered that exact phrase to be engraved on my headstone -- right below "Screw you, Manny! I win!"

(Manny knows what he did)

ileus

(15,396 posts)
13. Now you know how I feel.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 09:06 PM
Aug 2012

The right to life? The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness is in the constitution.

And those are the reasons I carry my sidearm....

as I always say: safety first, victim later.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
15. How could you have gotten shot?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:16 PM
Aug 2012

If you were at that movie theater, would you have been sitting on that guy's lap? That's just weird.

 

Atypical Liberal

(5,412 posts)
16. How does anyone who is killed get justice?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:49 PM
Aug 2012

The fact of the matter is, there is no real justice for anyone who is killed or permanently maimed from anything. Whether it is from drunk drivers, getting acid thrown on you, or being raped, or being killed, victims of violent crime never get "justice" as in something that can make it all right again.

If your definition of "justice" is something that helps the victim, there is no such thing.

Just about any place you go you could be shot today. There are no laws to prevent that. As it stands where ever you go a person could be carrying a gun and could accidentally or purposely kill you.

This is technically true. But what is also true is that violent crime has been declining for decades. What is also true is people who lawfully carry concealed weapons are hardly every involved in any kind of crime, let alone firearm-related crime. You would be statistically safer surrounded only by CCW firearm carriers than by a random sampling of the public at large.

Events like the Aurora shootings are sensational but rare. Don't assess your safety by such events. It's like deciding it's not safe to walk outside because some people get hit by lightning.

Union Scribe

(7,099 posts)
17. "There are no laws to prevent that"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:07 PM
Aug 2012

What law do you think could prevent that? Laws don't so much prevent things as punish people after the fact.

S_B_Jackson

(906 posts)
19. No, upaloopa, the constitution does contains no reference to
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:28 AM
Aug 2012

"The right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness...." come back to us again when you figure out where this term can be found.

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