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Another robbery with a military assault rifle. (Original Post) Remmah2 Nov 2012 OP
It's the bayonet lug... krispos42 Nov 2012 #1
I see what you did there. glacierbay Nov 2012 #2
SKS? DonP Nov 2012 #3
Hey those things are no laughing matter 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #18
I rofl'ed at the first comment from the link: petronius Nov 2012 #4
MOUND OF EARTH RISES Glaug-Eldare Nov 2012 #5
Mosin Nagant carbine. Ashgrey77 Nov 2012 #6
Yeah. Goes to show the robber's never fired it before. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2012 #7
That's not an "assault rifle," but a bolt action hunting or plinking rifle of some sort. apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #8
or a basic bolt action battle rifle gejohnston Nov 2012 #9
How's it going up in Wyoming? I'm going to Cheyenne next summer. n/t. apocalypsehow Nov 2012 #10
Stuck in Florida at the moment gejohnston Nov 2012 #11
It looks too short to be a 91-30 or 44 bolt DonP Nov 2012 #12
It's a cut down Mosin Nagant ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #14
No, I meant the bolt handle looked too short to me DonP Nov 2012 #15
From Smith & Smith's Book of Rifles, sitting on my lap... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #16
I don't see a bayonet ... Straw Man Nov 2012 #20
The reference was to the mount characteristics, not to the presence or no of a bayonet. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #21
We know guns kill people and that's the only fact worth knowing. ileus Nov 2012 #13
The picture is kind of blury but it's clear that is a fully automatic ak-47 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #17
Almost identical to a '66 Dodge Coronet. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #22
It's okay, I'm professional Russian. Glassunion Nov 2012 #19
 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
3. SKS?
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:15 PM
Nov 2012

At least they didn't call it an AK47.

But it is "obviously" a "high powered bolt action Mosin Nagant rifle"

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
18. Hey those things are no laughing matter
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:09 PM
Nov 2012

Look what just one of them is capable of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_H%C3%A4yh%C3%A4

/well one mosin nagant and one Finnish murder machine.

petronius

(26,700 posts)
4. I rofl'ed at the first comment from the link:
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 01:35 PM
Nov 2012
USER • 10 months ago

HOW DARE STUPID AMERICAN CHILD USE GLORIOUS SOVIET WEAPON FOR PETTY ROBERRY? IS RIFLE WITH LEGACY OF WAR, NOT FOOLISHNESS. TO USE RIFLE FOR IDIOT IDEA MAKE SERGEI MOSIN ROLL IN GRAVE. ALL OF RUSSIA DISAPPOINTED IN WASTED YOUTH.



And at least he kept his finger off the trigger in the top picture - nice to see a safety-conscious robber...
 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
7. Yeah. Goes to show the robber's never fired it before.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

Or if he did, he's a glutton for punishment; my Mosin leaves bruises if I don't brace 'er just right before firing. I can't imagine trying to fire that gun without a stock.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
8. That's not an "assault rifle," but a bolt action hunting or plinking rifle of some sort.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:52 PM
Nov 2012

Actually, it looks more like an older military style sniper rifle now that I look closer, but I can't tell from that picture alone.

You would think the one thing you Gungeoneers would know something about is the definition of different sorts of firearms. Looks like some of you don't even know that much.

gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
9. or a basic bolt action battle rifle
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:00 PM
Nov 2012

looking at the bolt handle, it is an old bolt action military rifle. Sniper/hunting rifle depends on who is using it.

the word facetious comes to mind.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
12. It looks too short to be a 91-30 or 44 bolt
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:56 PM
Nov 2012

That's why I wondered if it was a cut down SKS. The length looks more like the charging handle for an SKS than an older M-N bolt. The SKS is at least semi auto.

But it's hard to tell from that picture.

Straw Man

(6,955 posts)
14. It's a cut down Mosin Nagant ...
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 09:50 PM
Nov 2012

... or I'm a monkey's uncle. Probably an M44 with the bayonet removed or an M38. It's short because the stock has been cut down or off.



Woe be unto him if he were to try and fire it from that position: broken collarbone if he's lucky.

I have lots of experience with Mosins: M44s, 91/30s, and M39s. The bolt handle, barrel band, and front sight hood tell the whole story.

 

DonP

(6,185 posts)
15. No, I meant the bolt handle looked too short to me
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 10:51 PM
Nov 2012

It looked more like the charging handle on an SKS.

But I just checked my M44 and it really does have a really short bolt handle.

I agree on getting his ribs cracked if he tried to fire it though, not to mention deafened and starting anything in front on fire with the muzzle blast.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
16. From Smith & Smith's Book of Rifles, sitting on my lap...
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:37 PM
Nov 2012

"7.62mm M1944 Carbine. The last of the Mosin Nagant Service weapons; this carbine is basically the same as the M1938 carbine, but has a cruciform section bayonet permanently fixed to its right side. This was the principal shoulder weapon of the Communist Forces in Korea..."

This cruciform appears several inches back of the muzzle on right side, clocked 90° from vertical.

Straw Man

(6,955 posts)
20. I don't see a bayonet ...
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 06:53 PM
Nov 2012

... in the OP pic -- that's why I think it's a 38 (or a 44 with the bayonet removed).

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
21. The reference was to the mount characteristics, not to the presence or no of a bayonet.
Sat Nov 24, 2012, 12:28 AM
Nov 2012
 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
17. The picture is kind of blury but it's clear that is a fully automatic ak-47
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 04:06 PM
Nov 2012

with extended clip/magazine/whatever and likely loaded with hollow-point armor piercing rounds.

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