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I don't know this has been posted/seen ... (Original Post) 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 OP
That's a good read. Thanks! Scootaloo Jul 2015 #1
Bernie's white libertarian "supporters" will doom his campaign. They are his liability. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #2
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #6
"We finally found Bernie Sanders’ only black supporter" Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #8
Prove positive that the tipping point has been reached ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #9
OMG! So jealous! Black people are the new fashion accessory! They're all the rage! n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #12
Especially if you make no demands. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #13
They're off to a terrible start.. that's for sure, Tarheel. Another quote from Rod Morrow.. Cha Jul 2015 #29
Oh snap! You mean BLM actually had an impact? Who could've figured? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #34
Nah.. far from it.. "it's not about Bernie".. #BlackLivesMatter.. they'll get it or eat dust.. Cha Jul 2015 #38
Good hide. I had one of those earlier today. Thankfully, the poster is now on a time out. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #40
It'd be a damn shame they feel so comfortable making idiotic statements like that just because Cha Jul 2015 #41
I expected to see either Killer Mike or Jamaal510 Jul 2015 #33
***** GRAPHIC WARNING ****** Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #37
Yes, it is a great read. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #3
But I was tagged as a HRC supporter for making the exact same points/observations ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #7
well... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #11
I'm sure you haven't ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #14
He sees everything through his economic lens. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #15
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #16
Kick & Rec! sheshe2 Jul 2015 #4
This guy has Bernie fans figured out...sad to say... randys1 Jul 2015 #5
Yes. I noted that quote in my comment, too. Cha Jul 2015 #30
Good read. K&R brer cat Jul 2015 #10
Oh wow... BklnDem75 Jul 2015 #17
Is that someone we "know"? 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #18
Old Elm was P.U.M.A. HQ in 2008 BklnDem75 Jul 2015 #19
Skinner must be so proud! Old Elm Tree, the offshoot of racist, bitter dead end DUers that got Number23 Jul 2015 #20
Oh God. Not only did a Sanders supporter say this but actually had the nerve to tweet it to the Number23 Jul 2015 #21
The racefail was thick on Twitter yesterday, Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #23
Racefail with a big old dash of butthurt to boot. Number23 Jul 2015 #26
Too late, some are already there: Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #27
And that one screamed and wailed for days when I blocked him from this group a few months ago Number23 Jul 2015 #28
Oh wow.. is that a little sad fest for Sanders.. :( #BlackLivesMatter.. get over it. Cha Jul 2015 #32
Great location for next year. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #35
Precisely, Starry Messenger.. #BlackLivesMatters had a Victory at NRN.. and that's a win for Cha Jul 2015 #39
Oh Lord. I can't believe that only got a hide. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #42
I know. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #43
I understand it's a business, and Admin doesn't want to upset the apple cart. But, if history is... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #45
I know, but I would like to think that eliminating bigots would be better for business? Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #48
That makes two of us. The good thing is, they won't be able to contain their contempt for much.... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #49
It didn't come to MIRT because it wasn't a 7 - 0 hide, though it should have been. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2015 #51
Which makes me question those who voted to Leave It. I'm glad Admin reviews these things. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #52
Same here. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2015 #53
there was also one which asked why blm doesn't go after black on black crime JI7 Jul 2015 #44
Oh Jesus. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #46
And these are our allies? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #47
Oh my gods. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2015 #50
you don't see O'malley people behaving in the same way JI7 Jul 2015 #22
I'm convinced O'Malley will be the nominee JustAnotherGen Jul 2015 #24
No, you don't.. and Hillary people are standing up for the Protestors at #BlackLivesMatter. Cha Jul 2015 #36
I've been reading about Rod Morrow but I haven't seen this article.. thank you! Cha Jul 2015 #25
I saw it earlier today Gothmog Jul 2015 #31

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
2. Bernie's white libertarian "supporters" will doom his campaign. They are his liability.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jul 2015
Roderick Morrow:Oh, yeah, there's a ton of that. Honestly, the joke is not even on Bernie Sanders. That's what's so funny — the joke is on the defense of him, which is, if you extrapolate to the furthest extent, he can do no wrong on race. Like, we should not even expect anything of him, he put in his time already, we need to just shut up.


By the way, did you see this? http://politicalillusionsexposed.com/we-finally-found-bernie-sanders-only-black-supporter/

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
8. "We finally found Bernie Sanders’ only black supporter"
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:18 PM
Jul 2015


See him? If not, let us help you out with a red circle:



Still having trouble? Here, let us zoom in for you:



As you can see, this guy is wearing what appears to be a Bernie Sanders button, which all but confirms this gentleman as his only black supporter.

However, if you look in the lower left corner of the photo, there is evidence of a possible second black man:



 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
9. Prove positive that the tipping point has been reached ...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:22 PM
Jul 2015

two more and folks'll starting getting nervous ... they must be up to something!

Cha

(297,446 posts)
29. They're off to a terrible start.. that's for sure, Tarheel. Another quote from Rod Morrow..
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:22 PM
Jul 2015

"And it seems like any time black people bring this up on Twitter, there's all these people who, I don't know, they're just sitting around searching his name on Twitter or something, they just come and get in your mentions and start harassing you, they start saying the same things over and over to you, like, "He marched with Dr. Martin Luther King," and, "He was at a sit-in," and they send you a picture of him at a sit-in from 1960-something. That's all well and good, and I'm not denigrating that work, but it's almost as if they're trying to say, "You shouldn't expect him to continue this" or, "Because he's done stuff in the past, you shouldn't question him now."

Those on DU who had questions about Bernie got accused of calling Bernie a "racist".. uh huh. Now this thing has just exploded.

Next year Netroots is going to be in St Louis.. Netroots stands with #BlackLivesMatter!

"In a statement, Netroots Nation Executive Director Raven Brooks stood with the protesters. “Although we wish the candidates had more time to respond to the issues, what happened today is reflective of an urgent moment that America is facing today,” Brooks said. Next year’s conference will take place in St. Louis, close to Ferguson, and local leaders of the #BlackLivesMatter movement will be directly engaged, Brooks added. “We plan to work with activists there just as we did in Phoenix, to amplify issues like racial profiling and police brutality in a major way.”

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122329/bernie-sanders-and-martin-omalley-failed-their-blacklivesmatter-test

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
34. Oh snap! You mean BLM actually had an impact? Who could've figured?
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jul 2015
I'm just glad that some folks actually GET IT! This is not about Bernie Sanders, and the cult of personality surrounding him. It really is about Black Lives, and the increasing carelessness with which they're treated in this country.

I remember the ones now whining about the "disrespect" shown to their cult hero, whenever it was the President and First Lady, they cheered. It was the heckler's First Amendment rights then, but coming from BLM, it's disrespect? Hypocrite much?

Cha

(297,446 posts)
38. Nah.. far from it.. "it's not about Bernie".. #BlackLivesMatter.. they'll get it or eat dust..
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:14 PM
Jul 2015

I just proudly served on a on a jury-#7.. that insulted #BlackLivesMatter..

BLM is a corrupt organization working for a worthy cause.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=464285

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a blatantly racist post, just look at how the second paragraph starts: "I just don't get why black people want to shit on white male progressives". That is a pretty broad brush to use against black people, and the rest of the post is not much better. Posting this racist crap in a thread meant to unite people seems to be obvious trolling, please hide.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:06 PM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It isn't very clearly written but I don't believe the intention was racist.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: yeah, sorry.. this poster is obtuse and his statement is a pathetic, callous insult to the Black Community that has seen their people being murdered over and over again by the police.

Actually, I think it is the so-called "progressives" who are "shitting" on the Black Community.

HIDE.


Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
40. Good hide. I had one of those earlier today. Thankfully, the poster is now on a time out.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:21 PM
Jul 2015

They've gotten increasingly comfortable making these statements to our faces. Perhaps it's because we're so dreadfully outnumbered on this site?

Cha

(297,446 posts)
41. It'd be a damn shame they feel so comfortable making idiotic statements like that just because
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:52 PM
Jul 2015

they are in the majority.. if that's the case.

Maybe the hides will be a clue it's not acceptable.. not on this board, busters.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
37. ***** GRAPHIC WARNING ******
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jul 2015


I hear the good professor's in a tit for tat with Ta nahesi Coates right now. It's the only way he can get attention these days. I hope Cornel goes ahead and endorses BS. Black folk will be avoiding that campaign like the plague.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Yes, it is a great read.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:40 PM
Jul 2015

Three parts that stood out for me...

Bernie Sanders, while he does have a good track record on race in the past, he's kind of been avoiding talking about certain racial issues now. Whenever he's asked a question, he goes into a spiel on economics — which is fine, obviously, people do want wage and class equality. But certain issues are race issues, and they do need to be talked about, at least from a candidate that I would like to vote for.


He just kind of had a bad 48 hours or so. I'm not expecting him to drop out of the race; I think he'll be fine. Hopefully, from the tweets I've seen, I think his campaign's listening, and hopefully they're going to regroup and hopefully reform and be more vocal around some of these issues.


Honestly, the joke is not even on Bernie Sanders. That's what's so funny — the joke is on the defense of him, which is, if you extrapolate to the furthest extent, he can do no wrong on race. Like, we should not even expect anything of him, he put in his time already, we need to just shut up.


It pinpoints a problem with the campaign, suggests the solution, even implies that some work is being done towards fixing the problem. Then goes on to point out the joke, although really, most of the people who need to take a chill pill probably won't ever read the interview.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
11. well...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 06:45 PM
Jul 2015

I'm sure I haven't been making many of the other Bernie supporters happy with many of my comments over the last couple of days, either. As I've noted elsewhere, there's an awful lot of 'It's all about ME'ism floating around, or at least a lot of 'It's all about Bernie'. Which, if you flip into that viewpoint, immediately leads to the sorta paranoid conclusion that the 'ambush' was an 'attack' on Bernie, and thus on 'Bernie supporters'. Just like the candidates needs a 'Remember thou art mortal...' whisperer following them around, a lot of folks need a 'remember it's not all about you...' whisperer. We live our lives in our own heads, and some people never risk a step outside.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
14. I'm sure you haven't ...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:05 PM
Jul 2015

But that's one thing I recognize and respect about you ... you don't move with the herd!

Have you been booted from the Bernie Group yet!

What do you think about this point?

And it's kind of scary, too, because on a deeper level, when he talked about Ferguson, he was like, "Well, the real problem is that there's not enough jobs." And while I agree — jobs are definitely a problem, and opportunities are a problem, and you definitely want people to be working — Mike Brown was going to college. He was on his way to school in a couple of days. I don't think that was necessarily the problem in that situation. I hope it's not just him saying, "If these Negroes were working there wouldn't be any problems," because ooh, that's not too far from some really bold negative statements that we've heard about the black race in the past. I don't think that's what's underlying it, I just think he needs to be more vocal and speak with some authority about it because he seems to run from talking about it.


This is a clear example of why I (and others) have been saying about his inability/unwillingness to disentangle race from economic justice ... it leads to such statements that have Black folks bristling.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
15. He sees everything through his economic lens.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:27 PM
Jul 2015

And, as I'm sure you know, I do tend to too. I'm hoping he realizes, as I do, that there's simply no way to cast EVERY problem as an economic one, or one that can be solved with economic solutions. Economic solutions ameliorate other problems by making those who are economically fragile more resilient, giving them more breathing room to focus on those other problems. But they do not eliminate them. Unlike other supporters, though, I'm not going to claim I have some special insight into Bernie's mind. I don't know for sure if his resistance to speak in terms of racial justice is simply an attempt to stay on message, ideological blinders, or something more distressing. But 'staying on message' can hurt if it means the ONLY message he puts out is the one for 'white America'. He can talk about prisons, police shooting of black people, and other things as much as he wants, but if he doesn't have the right tone, messaging, and especially concrete policy proposals, it's just not going to matter much. And that means having messages that address racial issues in racial terms, not just economic ones.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. This guy has Bernie fans figured out...sad to say...
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015
Roderick Morrow:Sort of. The thing about the Bernie Sanders fans is while they're very obtuse and they don't listen, they are more polite than the people who just call you the n-word or a racial slur or something. It's more like that passive-aggressive "We're on the same side, man!" where clearly they don't want you to talk about anything that their candidate can do better, but they do want you to just vote for him.

There's a lot of "You're not saying this stuff to other candidates," but we are. He just kind of had a bad 48 hours or so. I'm not expecting him to drop out of the race; I think he'll be fine. Hopefully, from the tweets I've seen, I think his campaign's listening, and hopefully they're going to regroup and hopefully reform and be more vocal around some of these issues.



Number23

(24,544 posts)
20. Skinner must be so proud! Old Elm Tree, the offshoot of racist, bitter dead end DUers that got
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jul 2015

kicked off DU (although some that have NOT been kicked off of DU also post/posted there and they probably don't want people to know that) is still harassing black folks. These are the folks that WORSHIP at the altar of FireDogLake.

That snake has more than one head, apparently. I thought that site's days of harassing Democrats, especially brown ones, were long over.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
21. Oh God. Not only did a Sanders supporter say this but actually had the nerve to tweet it to the
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 08:49 PM
Jul 2015

Angry Black Lady.

Bernie was literally in the million man march with Dr. King. They are attacking the one dude who cares...smh
https://twitter.com/AngryBlackLady/status/622773873100980224


I don't.... I can't. I don't even know what...

LORD Have Mercy....

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
23. The racefail was thick on Twitter yesterday,
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:02 PM
Jul 2015

I had to get this one screencapped.



It might be time for the creation of a bingo card.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
26. Racefail with a big old dash of butthurt to boot.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:56 PM
Jul 2015

I expect the N word to be hurled (in a "progressive" way, of course) at any second.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
28. And that one screamed and wailed for days when I blocked him from this group a few months ago
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:13 PM
Jul 2015

When this whole thing first happened, I said that these folks were inches away from calling #BLM thugs and worse. Seems that the only thing I was wrong about was how long it would take.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
32. Oh wow.. is that a little sad fest for Sanders.. :( #BlackLivesMatter.. get over it.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:39 PM
Jul 2015

GD good thing that poster got a HIDE for that. Just couldn't help himself.. had to call those dedicated, beautiful people "thugs".

Oh and Netroots Nation Stands with the Protesters.. #BlackLivesMatter..

Next year Netroots is going to be in St Louis..

"In a statement, Netroots Nation Executive Director Raven Brooks stood with the protesters. “Although we wish the candidates had more time to respond to the issues, what happened today is reflective of an urgent moment that America is facing today,” Brooks said. Next year’s conference will take place in St. Louis, close to Ferguson, and local leaders of the #BlackLivesMatter movement will be directly engaged, Brooks added. “We plan to work with activists there just as we did in Phoenix, to amplify issues like racial profiling and police brutality in a major way.”

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122329/bernie-sanders-and-martin-omalley-failed-their-blacklivesmatter-test

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
35. Great location for next year.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

Honestly, I think this is a shot in the arm for NN. I enjoyed it in 2013, but it is kind of a lovefest for the progressive wing of the DP.

I posted a video in V&M of one of my favorite labor activists, Gregory Cendana, who changed his statement to the ending plenary for this year, to signal boost and support BLM and their statement at NN15. Netroots and AFL-CIO both posted it on Twitter, so I think these wild claims of BLM ruining NN are totally unfounded and are not shared by important allies.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
39. Precisely, Starry Messenger.. #BlackLivesMatters had a Victory at NRN.. and that's a win for
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 11:18 PM
Jul 2015

us all!

Next year St Louis!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
43. I know.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015

I really really hope the admins see wtf some are posting and clean house. I won't hold my breath though.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
45. I understand it's a business, and Admin doesn't want to upset the apple cart. But, if history is...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:37 AM
Jul 2015

any indication, when Skinner has finally had it, we'll see something along these lines: "Enough is Enough". You Better Believe It!

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
48. I know, but I would like to think that eliminating bigots would be better for business?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:40 AM
Jul 2015

I'm a dreamer. I am keeping my fingers crossed for a house-cleaning in the future!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,236 posts)
49. That makes two of us. The good thing is, they won't be able to contain their contempt for much....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:45 AM
Jul 2015

longer. And according to that hidden post, it's already happening. I sat on a jury for one earlier today, and at least that was put on a timeout. But the place is crawling with this crap.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,747 posts)
51. It didn't come to MIRT because it wasn't a 7 - 0 hide, though it should have been.
Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:11 PM
Jul 2015

Admin does review all hidden posts, though.

JI7

(89,259 posts)
44. there was also one which asked why blm doesn't go after black on black crime
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:31 AM
Jul 2015

which is a common right wing line .


Cha

(297,446 posts)
36. No, you don't.. and Hillary people are standing up for the Protestors at #BlackLivesMatter.
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jul 2015

Doesn't matter that she was in Arkansas. If she would have been there it would be the same.

#BlackLivesMatters are what count.. not the feelings of the Dem Candidates.. they'll be fine.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
25. I've been reading about Rod Morrow but I haven't seen this article.. thank you!
Mon Jul 20, 2015, 09:51 PM
Jul 2015
"Vox spoke to Morrow on Sunday evening about why he wasn't impressed with Sanders or his online fans.."

Another snip//

And it seems like any time black people bring this up on Twitter, there's all these people who, I don't know, they're just sitting around searching his name on Twitter or something, they just come and get in your mentions and start harassing you, they start saying the same things over and over to you, like, "He marched with Dr. Martin Luther King," and, "He was at a sit-in," and they send you a picture of him at a sit-in from 1960-something. That's all well and good, and I'm not denigrating that work, but it's almost as if they're trying to say, "You shouldn't expect him to continue this" or, "Because he's done stuff in the past, you shouldn't question him now."

Imani Gandy ?@AngryBlackLady

If I see one more Bernie acolyte mention that he marched with MLK, I'm going to burn the Internet to the ground. @EdDescault @Eclectablog
4:23 AM - 19 Jul 2015

That @AngryBlackLady tweet, sent out to her 35,000 followers, inspired Roderick Morrow—who runs the “Black Guy Who Tips” comedy podcast with his wife, Karen—to launch the mocking hashtag #BernieSoBlack:

snip//

Which I thought was a funny joke. It's like they're almost trying to outblack us. "Oh, you're a black person, what could you possibly understand about our candidate? He was marching before you were even born!" Okay, that's cool, but you gotta stay on top of it. So I made a joke that's like, "Bernie's blacker than us! Bernie's SO BLACK!" That's how it feels when they come into our mentions and tell us that we don't know what we're talking about, and even though [Sanders] doesn't talk about #BlackLivesMatter right now, we should just kind of shut up. So I was just like:

snip//

Roderick Morrow:Sort of. The thing about the Bernie Sanders fans is while they're very obtuse and they don't listen, they are more polite than the people who just call you the n-word or a racial slur or something. It's more like that passive-aggressive "We're on the same side, man!" where clearly they don't want you to talk about anything that their candidate can do better, but they do want you to just vote for him.

I love this guy!



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