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Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:11 AM Aug 2015

Just remember.

This is for the African American group please.

By the way all my liberal white friends. You know I love you all. You are entitled to your opinion just like I am entitled to mine. Just remember that you can go into a store and shop without worry. This post is something I like to tittle "Just Remember."

Just remember you can go to a doctor's office and not have to have anyone else draw up worrying that you are going to steal their pocket book. (Yes that happened to me last year when I went to the doctor but I never picked up on it.)

Just remember you never have to worry about a police officer stopping you over your skin color.

Just remember you always get the best rates on a mortgage application.

Just remember you can live in any neighborhood in America and no one will question why you are here.

Just remember that you can carry a gun in the open and police won't question why you are there.

Just remember no one will ever call you an ape to your face.

Just remember police will go out there way to make sure you get home safely.

Just remember you can freely gather to protest without police trying to arrest you.

Just remember 314 people have died at the hands of police.

Just remember you will always get the best jobs over people of color.

Just remember you never have things handed to you on a silver platter.

Just remember people will never judge you based on your skin color.

Just remember, you were not relocated forcefully from your homeland.

Just remember, people are not trying to justify slavery to you or your descendents.

Just remember, that hatred is taught at a young age.

Finally, Just remember, we all bleed RED.

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Just remember. (Original Post) Coolest Ranger Aug 2015 OP
I'm listening and learning. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #1
I can do more than that. stone space Aug 2015 #2
Some times "white pass" doesn't work. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #9
We were swimming at a local swimming hole once. stone space Aug 2015 #11
I told this story before here... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #13
What you describe is not too dissimilar from BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #15
My husband noted that same thing JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #16
So well said mcar Aug 2015 #3
Thanks for describing how we lack the privilege of living within a cocoon of white normality MrScorpio Aug 2015 #4
thank you ellennelle Aug 2015 #5
k&r Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #6
K&R. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #7
Well written winterwar Aug 2015 #8
Thank you for laying this all out so clearly. I'm just an old white guy. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #10
Thanks for the post! ybbor Aug 2015 #12
A Kick and A Rec for the East Coast Lunch Hour JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #14
Kick for the east coast after work crowd Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #17
Thanks, CR, needs to be posted in the paper or on Thom Hartmann's show. freshwest Aug 2015 #18
Damn straight! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #20
A late day kick JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #21

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
1. I'm listening and learning.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:16 AM
Aug 2015

As a woman, I've felt misogyny firsthand. I can empathize and try every day to understand what PoC experience and try to help change it.

I'm sorry for each and every one of those experiences you've had and more.

We need to do better.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
2. I can do more than that.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:25 AM
Aug 2015
Just remember that you can go into a store and shop without worry.


I can turn it on and off at will in real time.

There was a store near here that my wife and I went shopping in.

Whenever we got separated, somebody would start watching and following my wife.

When I met up with her and we were together, they stopped following.

But the minute we got separated, she was being followed, again.

Now, I certainly knew about profiling before that, but I never imagined the level of micro-control (for lack of a better word) that I could have over it simply by being with her vs being in another asile and leaving her alone.

It was freaky.

When I mentioned the experience to a Black microbiologist once, she called it the "white friend pass".



DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Some times "white pass" doesn't work.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:54 AM
Aug 2015

I have went shopping with a black friend and we both end up getting watched.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
11. We were swimming at a local swimming hole once.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:02 AM
Aug 2015

As we arrived, some guys started harassing a gay couple in the water.

Folks got a bit annoyed with them, so they left.

Unfortunately for us, they decided to slash all four tires of our van on the way out.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. I told this story before here...
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:17 AM
Aug 2015

My buddy was a black gentleman in his late seventies who acted and was in the shape of a man forty years younger. We were building a door and went to a Loews near my Lake Mary, Florida home. I should add he was awarded Bronze stars in Korea and Nam and amassed a seven figure fortune after making an investment in a black owned community bank. We were in the door section of the store and a white woman and her husband saw us and conspicuously moved her purse from her cart to herself. My friend looked at me and said "I guess she doesn't trust us."

But he was color blind in a positive sense. He had many white friends a white son in law. He was like a surrogate dad to me and called me son.

BumRushDaShow

(128,905 posts)
15. What you describe is not too dissimilar from
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

that experienced by many older blacks who had migrated north to escape the oppression in the south (although northern oppression was rampant as well but in a different form). However they still wanted to touch base with their relatives who remained. And this brought about a quandary regarding safety when traveling around.

We once lived next door to an older professional black couple who were southerners with PhDs and whose own parents were physicians or dentists (they would be nearing their 100s now if they had still been alive). Yet when they made the annual trek by car back down south, the husband had to don a "chauffeur's cap" to help avoid being targeted once he crossed the Mason-Dixon Line. And we're talking all the way up into the 1990s. And God forbid, don't be a black male with a white (or even "white-looking&quot woman in the car - again, unless you don "the cap" - literal "Driving Miss Daisy" style. See the ridiculously touted "Birth of a Nation" and "Gone With the Wind" for part of the problem of engraining stereotypes (let alone much of the modern entertainment fare that continues the perpetuation).

We are talking literal cultural conditioning that has so permeated into the fabric of the United States that it will probably take a century or more to eradicate the stench.

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
16. My husband noted that same thing
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:34 AM
Aug 2015

I'm forbidden from going into Zara as a result.

Actually - I won't go in there anymore at all. He couldn't leave well enough alone. I was so embarrassed for those employees and manager when he was done with them. *hides head in a paperbag*

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
4. Thanks for describing how we lack the privilege of living within a cocoon of white normality
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 09:57 AM
Aug 2015

It's a message that must always be repeated.

ellennelle

(614 posts)
5. thank you
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 10:32 AM
Aug 2015

so much. this is not said enough, and it needs to be, but BY WHITE FOLKS!

we white folk need to say these things out loud to remind ourselves of all our privileges, privileges we take for granted, just like air.

a few years ago, after losing an extended legal battle that bankrupted me, i realized the many ways the rug had been pulled out from under my security, my stability, and my opportunities. it all came crashing down, while washing my dishes, how much worse it would be for me if i were of color!!!

that moment devastated me; i crumbled in sobs, ironically, of an odd and selfish gratitude, but more of shame, deep and bruising and blistering shame.

i was 18 in memphis when MLK was shot, and i'd thought that moment marked me forever for the awareness it brought me of the whole racist issue. but that more recent, and more personal experience rewrote my script.

i know i can never live inside skin of color, and i would never pretend to have anything like a real clue what that is like. but surely, the more WE WHITE FOLK take your words seriously and say them out loud, the more we will inch toward getting it (as if we ever really could), and the more others will too.

i mean really, people, when you can walk in their shoes, ferchrissake; there but for the grace of god and all that.

because ultimately, the only way racism will come unraveled is for white folk to own our brutally earned shame.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. Thank you for laying this all out so clearly. I'm just an old white guy.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:00 AM
Aug 2015

But, I'm feeling like this is such an important moment in US history,
esp. with regard to our racial injustice issues. 7 years into having
an African American POTUS, yet AA's are still getting murdered
instead of protected and served.

it's a WTF moment, in a good way, to wake us all up if only we can
start listening to one another in a new and deeper way. Thank you
for helping me see a bit more clearly into what PoC face every day.


ybbor

(1,554 posts)
12. Thanks for the post!
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

You should pen a letter to the NY Times saying the exact same thing. Most whites simply do not get it and it needs to be repeated often until we all do.

Thanks again!

Peace

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Thanks, CR, needs to be posted in the paper or on Thom Hartmann's show.
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 06:25 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:06 AM - Edit history (1)

A rumor, likely be true, is that bravenak was the one who inspired this:



Because of your work in radio, you may get him to go over your list and the words of bravenak.

I cannot get these words by bravenak out of my head and heart, thinking as a woman and mother. I always knew this, but her words are so powerful:

252. Maybe delete and apologize for your 'race nagging' comment. We are dying and in jail.

It is not nagging. We are fighting for our lives and our childrens lives. How is that nagging? It is a demand to be treated fairly and equally and to be seen. Look at me. Notice my race. It affect me everyday. Why not just join our call and not feel nagged, but instead feel called to action?


Black Lives Matter:

This is a CALL TO ACTION TO PROGRESSIVES!!! SOS!!!! SOS!!!

MAYDAY MAYDAY, WE'RE SCARED TO LEAVE OUR HOMES AND THE COPS CAN JUST COME IN AND KILL US, HELP HELP HELP!!

OUR HUSBANDS ARE IN JAIL AND OUR KIDS ARE POOR, WE'RE SCARED!!


To that you say: Race naggers!!! I think that was a terribly unfeeling and mean response. It saddens me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251467790#post252

I cannot hold back the tears every time I read this heart rending plea to those who should be on her side.

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