Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:36 AM

It boggles my mind that we black folk forgot about how racist the Clinton camp was in 2008!

I just came back to say this.

Stockholm Syndrome? No.

Bad memory and too quick to forgive? Yes.

Reminders:

In reference to MLK, Jr. - paraphrasing from Hillary: "It look LBJ to get it done, not pretty speeches"

YouTube of her own words:

Regarding "hard working white people" from Hillary:

The above includes Bill Clinton's disgusting remarks about Jesse Jackson's run for president. So disgusting that Jim Clyburn had to call him and tell him to STOP:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/25/clinton.clyburn/

More disgusting racist Hillary digs at Obama (invoking Bobby Kennedy's assassination) after she knew he had been receiving unprecedented death threats:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24clinton.html

(This incident led to the Kennedy family's endorsement of Obama!)

And don't forget the racist dog whistles from the Clinton camp: Geraldine Ferraro's assertion that Obama's race is the only deciding factor for why he is doing well--not his merit, not his talent, not his intelligence:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/2008/03/playing_the_racist_card.html

Ed Rendell was also despicable:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/2008/02/14/Rendell-offers-his-defense-on-Obama-race-remark/stories/200802140484

And Paul Begala and James Carville's behavior was absolutely HORRID!

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Why don't the majority of blacks remember this racist crap from the Clinton camp? And more important, why are they forgiving them for their horrible behavior?

Note: I don't support ANY Democratic Party nominee at this point--not Bernie, not Hillary, not O'Malley, and certainly not Webb. None of them have shown me that they give a shit about black folks; they only want the black vote.

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It boggles my mind that we black folk forgot about how racist the Clinton camp was in 2008! (Original post)	Liberal_Stalwart71	Oct 2015	OP
"We black folks"?? Did you really type that! And expect....belief?	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#1
Clinton's policies were absolutely horrible for black people! HORRIBLE!!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Oct 2015	#6
To what then, do "we black folks" attribute the current overwhelming support for the Clintons??	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#10
While I (largely) agree ...	1StrongBlackMan	Oct 2015	#23
Welcome back!	stevenleser	Oct 2015	#15
Not to fight; but, none of those were done by HRC. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Oct 2015	#22
I gave you a rec	JustAnotherGen	Oct 2015	#2
with the Clintons one thing i know is that KNOW they need the black community	JI7	Oct 2015	#9
That's a really good point n/t	JustAnotherGen	Oct 2015	#11
Did you notice - Sanders supporters giving you a rec	JustAnotherGen	Oct 2015	#3
Same here.	Chitown Kev	Oct 2015	#4
yes remember that bravenak was very critical of hillary	JI7	Oct 2015	#8
I haven't forgotten any of it.	angel123	Oct 2015	#5
i think they are good at forming relationships in different communities	JI7	Oct 2015	#7
I don't think anybody's forgotten anything, LS	Number23	Oct 2015	#12
Lol	F4lconF16	Oct 2015	#13
I have issues with Hillary's candidacy but I'd be lying if I said the main ones had to do with her	Number23	Oct 2015	#14
"I think if anything, it speaks to the quality of the other Dem candidates running against her."	Tarheel_Dem	Oct 2015	#16
I think we have some very high quality Dems running and we put the Republicans	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#17
did you support her in 2008 over OBama ?	JI7	Oct 2015	#18
Yes I did. I was not an Obama fan, but I voted for him twice.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#19
i wanted to know if it was because you thought she could win or you just liked her better	JI7	Oct 2015	#20
I liked her better. You are right though, at the time I also did not think Obama could win.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#21
What was about Obama BACK THEN, not now, that had you not supporting him	randys1	Oct 2015	#25
I never thought he had the chops for dealing in foreign affairs, and it appears I was right.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#26
I believe Clinton will continue the drone campaign	JustAnotherGen	Oct 2015	#27
and sanders	JI7	Oct 2015	#40
I didn't want to go there	JustAnotherGen	Oct 2015	#41
even though he himself said he would	JI7	Oct 2015	#43
Foreign affairs? Drones? First, I hate drones, but surely Hillary will use them, right?	randys1	Oct 2015	#28
You obviously have a direct line to Hillary and her plans in regard to drones.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#32
Staying there is wrong, I agree. I believe HIllary will also and your remark about her and	randys1	Oct 2015	#34
I am not a gambler. Hillary has not even been elected yet, so I think I will wait until she is	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#36
these are things she has publicly talked about	JI7	Oct 2015	#44
It actually is a good question for the debates.	randys1	Oct 2015	#46
being more hawkish is one of the ways she has publicly differed from Obama	JI7	Oct 2015	#37
You are wrong about Gitmo....the record is clear why it is not closed and it is the usual suspects.	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#29
We will just have to disagree.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#30
Glad to see you remembered why Gitmo is not closed!	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#31
Obama said he would close it, and he did not.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#33
We disagree on facts and history and conclusion...pretty much the whole shabang!	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#35
There you go then.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#38
Obama was never in a position to close Guantanamo. The US Congress is the only entitity with that	Number23	Oct 2015	#58
This election, for me, is not about "who I like". It's about quality, and of the field (for me) HRC	Tarheel_Dem	Oct 2015	#45
Hillary represents not going backwards, but not going forward much. Bernie's IDEAS	randys1	Oct 2015	#47
There's a Pew Poll around here somewhere that explains that 2/3 of Dems want a POTUS who will....	Tarheel_Dem	Oct 2015	#53
I dont want to expand on drone use or being in Afghanistan, for instance.	randys1	Oct 2015	#54
To pull a page from our neighbors to the north, it looks like Canada just elected Pierre Trudeau's	MADem	Oct 2015	#59
I like HRC because I believe she is the highest quality of them all.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#55
If people don't think that Bernie has a "snowballs chance in hell" of winning then that is most	Number23	Oct 2015	#57
if minorities never forgive folks for saying or voting for prejudiced things, we'd have no one to	La Lioness Priyanka	Oct 2015	#24
I wish I could rec this post.	Tipperary	Oct 2015	#39
He and Hillary had the exact same opinion on gay marriage. Exactly the same!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Oct 2015	#49
except she was not on the ballot when i went to vote for president	La Lioness Priyanka	Oct 2015	#50
You mean some Black Folk forgot?	Stellar	Oct 2015	#42
I think most people who support Hillary over Obama did so due to Obama's race! Period!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Oct 2015	#48
then they forgot that they were racist for the presidential vote.	La Lioness Priyanka	Oct 2015	#51
so, the black woman I am married to is racist?	kwassa	Oct 2015	#56
If it doesn't apply to your wife then I'm not talking to her. MOST is not "ALL"!	Liberal_Stalwart71	Oct 2015	#60
And if you reversed the past 200 yrs the white version of Obama would get 100% of the vote	randys1	Oct 2015	#61
How many has forgotten the snarks made about BLM and many members of AA.	Thinkingabout	Oct 2015	#52

Response to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:43 AM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

1. "We black folks"?? Did you really type that! And expect....belief?

The vast majority of "black folks" remain thoughtfully and rightly loyal to the Clintons and have voted their preference with hindsight and thought and reject the premise offered.

The Clintons have talked the talk and walked the walk!

It boggles my mind that we black folk forgot about how racist the Clinton camp was in 2008!

1. "We black folks"?? Did you really type that! And expect....belief?

6. Clinton's policies were absolutely horrible for black people! HORRIBLE!!

10. To what then, do "we black folks" attribute the current overwhelming support for the Clintons??

23. While I (largely) agree ...

15. Welcome back!

22. Not to fight; but, none of those were done by HRC. n/t

2. I gave you a rec

9. with the Clintons one thing i know is that KNOW they need the black community

11. That's a really good point n/t

3. Did you notice - Sanders supporters giving you a rec

4. Same here.

8. yes remember that bravenak was very critical of hillary

5. I haven't forgotten any of it.

7. i think they are good at forming relationships in different communities

12. I don't think anybody's forgotten anything, LS

13. Lol

14. I have issues with Hillary's candidacy but I'd be lying if I said the main ones had to do with her

16. "I think if anything, it speaks to the quality of the other Dem candidates running against her."

17. I think we have some very high quality Dems running and we put the Republicans

18. did you support her in 2008 over OBama ?

19. Yes I did. I was not an Obama fan, but I voted for him twice.

20. i wanted to know if it was because you thought she could win or you just liked her better

21. I liked her better. You are right though, at the time I also did not think Obama could win.

25. What was about Obama BACK THEN, not now, that had you not supporting him

26. I never thought he had the chops for dealing in foreign affairs, and it appears I was right.

27. I believe Clinton will continue the drone campaign

40. and sanders

41. I didn't want to go there

43. even though he himself said he would

28. Foreign affairs? Drones? First, I hate drones, but surely Hillary will use them, right?

32. You obviously have a direct line to Hillary and her plans in regard to drones.

34. Staying there is wrong, I agree. I believe HIllary will also and your remark about her and

36. I am not a gambler. Hillary has not even been elected yet, so I think I will wait until she is

44. these are things she has publicly talked about

46. It actually is a good question for the debates.

37. being more hawkish is one of the ways she has publicly differed from Obama

29. You are wrong about Gitmo....the record is clear why it is not closed and it is the usual suspects.

30. We will just have to disagree.

31. Glad to see you remembered why Gitmo is not closed!

33. Obama said he would close it, and he did not.

35. We disagree on facts and history and conclusion...pretty much the whole shabang!

38. There you go then.

58. Obama was never in a position to close Guantanamo. The US Congress is the only entitity with that

45. This election, for me, is not about "who I like". It's about quality, and of the field (for me) HRC

47. Hillary represents not going backwards, but not going forward much. Bernie's IDEAS

53. There's a Pew Poll around here somewhere that explains that 2/3 of Dems want a POTUS who will....

54. I dont want to expand on drone use or being in Afghanistan, for instance.

59. To pull a page from our neighbors to the north, it looks like Canada just elected Pierre Trudeau's

55. I like HRC because I believe she is the highest quality of them all.

57. If people don't think that Bernie has a "snowballs chance in hell" of winning then that is most

24. if minorities never forgive folks for saying or voting for prejudiced things, we'd have no one to

39. I wish I could rec this post.

49. He and Hillary had the exact same opinion on gay marriage. Exactly the same!

50. except she was not on the ballot when i went to vote for president

42. You mean some Black Folk forgot?

48. I think most people who support Hillary over Obama did so due to Obama's race! Period!

51. then they forgot that they were racist for the presidential vote.

56. so, the black woman I am married to is racist?

60. If it doesn't apply to your wife then I'm not talking to her. MOST is not "ALL"!

61. And if you reversed the past 200 yrs the white version of Obama would get 100% of the vote

52. How many has forgotten the snarks made about BLM and many members of AA.