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M Kitt

(208 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 03:46 PM Dec 2015

Shootings and the "Terrorist" label, what's the Racial connection?

Allowing our national identity to be compromised, the real threat

Once we’ve identified threats within the USA, who decides our national response? What agenda drives that response?

Are we downplaying some threats, magnifying others?

Are you a potential Terrorist? Who gets to decide?

Keeping things in Context

Some perspective is in order, the following article was posted not long after the events of late June 2011, when a right wing Norwegian fringe racist killed over 60 persons, including children at a camp/school center.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=0

A short summary of that event:

NYT quotes local Oslow Norway publications, “The shooter is characterized by officials as a right-wing extremist, citing previous writings included on his Facebook page. This person entered the youth camp on the island of Utoya, about 19 miles northwest of Oslo, a Norwegian security official said, and opened fire.”

Of the at least 80 people killed on the island, some were as young as 16, the police said on national television early Saturday. The suspect’s Internet postings suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views.


Was that person engaging in “Terrorism”? Members of the right wing continue to deny that, of course, across the international spectrum. Based on their own partisan political bias.

Recent Similar Events

Are there comparisons to be made in the USA? Currently? Yes, of course.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-san-bernardino-shooting-live-updates-htmlstory.html

Some of our supposed “news sources” have immediately rushed to label that incident “Terrorism” and are calling for a national response targeting this supposed “Muslim Threat”. We’re being led to believe that middle east Al Qaida (or Isis?) connected radicals have somehow manipulated the actions of an Islamic couple in San Bernadino, without any supporting evidence whatsoever, however unlikely that scenario may be (see below article statistically comparing the threat of Muslim violence to White Supremacist activity within the United States).

What can we expect as a result of that irrational sustained media attack?

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/shocking-list-anti-muslim-bigotry-and-hate-crimes-paris-attacks-one-month-ago

Our media “feeding frenzy” behavior assures that the number of incidents of resulting “defamation” behavior continue to grow and gain momentum, blow-back for this incident and the Paris attacks.

Since media coverage is amplifying this supposed looming national threat, we’re assured that this trend will continue in the USA, supporting the right wing Anti-Islam agenda we’ve come to recognize as prominent in that segment of our national political ambitions, thru ongoing biased media coverage.

What isn’t being covered, what’s intentionally excluded from our media?

To answer that question, let’s look at what other political interests are engaged in support of the right wing national agenda. If you control the media, you control the message. So instead of a “feeding frenzy”, we can demonstrate a policy of national exclusion regarding coverage of the following, with these exceptions.

http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/25/eyewitness_recalls_shooting_by_alleged_white

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/charleston-shooting-confederate-flag-debate-renewed/

The White Supremacist movement in the USA is much more of a threat than many of us realize.

Those of us who are not black may have difficulty understanding the scale of that threat, and national news media blackout on that topic is the reason. Can’t have organized dissent, now, can we?

Then there’s the subject of disproportional shootings minority members of our society are subjected to during confrontations with police, another topic altogether. I’ll not address that material here, tho it merits a great deal of discussion.

http://blacklivesmatter.com/


What else is NOT being covered in our national media?

Our Federal agencies can easily track this trend, have been documenting it for more than a decade.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/02/11/anti-muslim-hate-crimes-are-still-five-times-more-common-today-than-before-911/

http://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2015/fbi-bias-crimes-against-muslims-remain-high-levels

Right wing media is intentionally rationalizing the Anti-Muslim rhetoric we’ve become familiar with over the last 1.5 decades since 9-11, while concurrently contributing to and encouraging the “defamation” of our national/international Islamic community.


Allowing our national identity to be compromised

Have we been compromised in this way? Absolutely.

And as asked in the opening paragraph, “Once we’ve identified threats within the USA, who decides our national response? What agenda drives that response?”

“Are we downplaying some threats, magnifying others?” Some of us are, obviously, to benefit their own partisan doctrine. Toward what end?

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-diamond-chile-america-democracy-20141228-story.html

Let’s not allow our integrity to be further compromised on a global scale. Our national identity is at stake.
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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. One of the best and most professionally put together posts I have seen in forever!
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 05:27 PM
Dec 2015

Listening to the radio today and the white racist wanted to know why the host didnt show equal anger at BLM saying violent things as is being shown toward Trump and his nazi supporters.

Problem of course is BLM didnt say those things, and the one time something stupid was said it was DENOUNCED...

Trump purposely doesnt denounce for instance today when the crowd wanted officials to BURN ALIVE the BLM protester and another said "Sieg Heil"

https://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/it-gets-worse-trump-supporter-yells-sieg-heil-as-protester-violently-dragged-out-of-vegas-rally/

 

M Kitt

(208 posts)
2. Thanks, appreciate the supportive and thoughtful comments.
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:23 AM
Dec 2015

Last edited Thu Dec 17, 2015, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

My Perspective

Why is there such a lack of compassion among the white community now, today, here in the USA?

Setting aside what must be the obvious motivation, the aspect of protecting their position in society (IE White Privilege).

Has Empire really been outgrown?

I would first point out that our current military middle east ventures demonstrate that we've not given up ambitions of empire, we're just covering those tendencies over with a veneer of "International Involvement", protecting our interests, right?

We're REALLY interested all right, and those interests are represented by the petroleum beneath the sands of the middle east.

What's the connection, how do international Interests in the USA effect behavior of our "News Media?"

Our news media is generally supportive of broad national policy.

So if those policies include military intervention in support of our middle east interests (and they do), our token "media reporting" will reflect those policies. Will continue to do so, as has always been the case.

Specifically, if our so-called "news media" goes looking for "Islamic Terrorists" within our borders in support of our broad national policies of middle east military intervention, we can be assured that those "Islamic Terrorists" will be found. Or at least SOMEONE will be (eagerly!) labeled as such.

As has been the case since the events of 9-11.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/123016212

From the opening paragraph of that post:

"Ever wondered why the Intolerance so easily observed today has always existed, why it's completely acceptable to so many among us, considered to be simply the "Social Norm"? Even among we "Non-Participants", right?

Targets of this aggression change across the decades, of course, but doesn't it seem peculiar that all of us DON'T understand that bigotry, racism, presumed white privilege of today, they're all interconnected?

And that those "Accepted Behaviors" are actually descended from a literal "lineage" of ambitious, repressive policies that brought about and perpetuated Slavery early in our national history, why haven't ALL OF US considered that?

Truth be told, effects of Centuries Old Colonialism are still being "Echoed" in the damaged results of our current society."


Our current news media is simply following along in the footprints of our broad military goals, our "national interests" as historically represented by the same Colonialist (Empire Building) behavior mentioned above.

Thanks.
 

M Kitt

(208 posts)
3. Regarding the link you attached (The Donald)
Wed Dec 16, 2015, 02:54 AM
Dec 2015

Just took the time to review the contents of that link.

I've been telling myself for months now that Trump can't be nearly as stupid or bigoted as he appears to be.

Was thinking to myself, maybe he's just putting us on, maybe he's just a "Media Whore" who'll do or say whatever ridiculous BS will make headlines.

But as time goes on, I've adjusted that opinion to match his behavior, as we've all been forced to do (or simply shut off the news feed?)

Based on the sheer VOLUME of nonsense spouted/produced by this Jacka$$, he really MUST be just as stupid and bigoted as he appears to be. Period.

Thanks Randys1

 

M Kitt

(208 posts)
4. Reliable motivation for frenetic Anti-Muslim rhetoric? Reicht wing ambitions of Military Conflict
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:30 PM
Dec 2015

Link to follow, thanks Napkinz, for the post on General Discussion.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7463272

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