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(10,173 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:17 PM Jul 2017

"to the "socially conscious" objectors who didn't vote".....

"I just saw a middle-aged man from West Africa who is living with HIV and has been in the US since the mid 2000s. He came here on asylum and has been applying repeatedly and appealing rejections each time. He works construction and got insurance to pay for his HIV meds and has been doing well.

He told me today that he was fired due to 45's initiatives trying to purge the US of non-white immigrants who are not citizens yet. He had to scramble to get the Medicaid-funded AIDS Drug Assistance Program (ADAP) so he can continue to get his meds, but missed 10 days in the process.

To those of you who pseudo-intellextualize your decision to "take a stand and not vote last year because of apathy, anger about Bernie not being the candidate, or because "Hillary was just as bad," please sit the fuck down. It's great to blog and get hundreds of "likes" for typing half-baked ideas in social media spaces as you stand defiant and stern in your decision to let this disaster happen - but what is happening to people in the US now as a result is very real and will be adversely impacting people's lives and health for years to come. This clown in the White House is systematically dismantling programs that are going to kill people. My patient's clinical outcome depends on this idiot that many Americans allowed to assume power. If you think that none of this will affect you because you're not HIV-positive, you're dead wrong.

When the Republicans destroy Medicaid, my patient won't be able to get meds because ADAP will be impacted by these cuts. He will get sick, and will likely die and/or get deported, whichever comes first. He has been a productive worker in this country for 13 years, and this is what he gets.

So spare me with your posts/articles about being an HIV advocate and "doing the work" if you didn't vote last year. You ain't doing shit - you actively contributed to setting this country back decades, just when we are starting to see a decrease in new HIV cases in many areas.

And oh yeah, the used car salesman you allowed to get in the White House just banned our transgender brothers and sisters from serving in the military.

So while you're at it, take your "LGBT advocacy" social media diatribes and shove them up your asses.
I hope you're all proud of yourselves. You really made your point by being the "socially conscious" objectors who didn't vote. Well done."

From a public status on FB.

I've zero empathy for the narcissism of those who refused to vote, the "Meh, Guess I'm With her" idiots, the faux piety of conscience voters. It was always going to be an uphill battle, especially knowing Trump would indulge in white resentment to the hilt.

Sure Clinton made tactical errors but we are left with the outcomes and that is ALL that matters in elections - not the career of a politician who ran and lost, or even a political party, but the OUTCOMES and the impact of these outcomes on our quality of life.

Nothing else matters. If you squandered the opportunity to prevent these outcomes, you are culpable and own the Trumpster fire that is this presidency.

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"to the "socially conscious" objectors who didn't vote"..... (Original Post) JHan Jul 2017 OP
,eh, I guess were with her DonCoquixote Jul 2017 #1
. it's the apathy I was more alluding to.. JHan Jul 2017 #2
I only see JHan talking about those that did not vote. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #4
also, the apathy and faux piety and the other crap also had an effect on "Enthusiasm"... JHan Jul 2017 #7
This is why I remain very angry ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #3
You're probably a coastal elitist to be fair.... JHan Jul 2017 #5
Oh yeah. ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #6
+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2017 #8
Simulated KICK AND REC The Polack MSgt Jul 2017 #9
Big kick and rec The Polack MSgt Jul 2017 #10
Anyone who didn't see this coming brer cat Jul 2017 #11
They are already at it again. leftofcool Aug 2017 #13
Yes. brer cat Aug 2017 #14
K&R! betsuni Jul 2017 #12


(13,616 posts)
1. ,eh, I guess were with her
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:37 PM
Jul 2017

does that include people who did vote for her, and got other people to vote for her? I may have had my misgiving s with Hillary and Bernie, but I could add 2 plus 2, and made a few former Trump voters do so too.


(10,173 posts)
2. . it's the apathy I was more alluding to..
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:45 PM
Jul 2017

as if there was such little difference between the two presidential candidates when there was an ocean of difference. But beyond that, I think "we" - the royal we - shouldn't feel we need to be coddled to vote, it's important to recognize that your vote does matter, that risking terrible outcomes leads to worse circumstances. We shouldn't need a politician to tell us this, politicians come and go anyway.


(10,173 posts)
7. also, the apathy and faux piety and the other crap also had an effect on "Enthusiasm"...
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jul 2017

.... well people are living the consequences.


(41,951 posts)
3. This is why I remain very angry
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 06:50 PM
Jul 2017

This is damage in real-time--a direct result of not voting, presenting one-liners and memes as political arguments (oligarchs, anyone?), or, allowing a racist brother in law say, tell his "Mexican" jokes without slapping that motherfucker down hard. It's a result of overt sexism from the "lighten up" crowd. It's the result of pretending words and phrases don't matter, that they don't contain the weight of our entire cultural freight. It's the result of "All lives matter" as a response to black deaths. It's a result of complacency once Gay people were "allowed" to marry. It's a result of sitting in relative comfort and pretending that equals revolution.

I knew, I mean I fucking KNEW what was going to happen if Trump got elected. A sheer epic clusterfuck of appealing to the very worst of us, and the very worst in us.

Fuck Trump voters and fuck Hillary haters.


(10,173 posts)
5. You're probably a coastal elitist to be fair....
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:06 PM
Jul 2017

it seems only coastal elites and poor people making less than 50,000 k figured it out.


(83,545 posts)
8. +1000
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jul 2017

When the election ended and some dust settled, I saw many posts saying, it is okay, we can get through this, we did with Bush after all. Well, let me tell you Bush was a mild rain storm compared to the CAT10 that tRump is going to be. Yeah, there has never been a CAT10, just you wait Donnie and the White Supremacists are here. Bannon's fondest wish is to destroy our Government. Havoc from climate, rounding up and deporting citizens to healthcare and programs to help the most needy are going to kill us. Our economy is going to collapse and people are going to die. Mark my words.

brer cat

(24,489 posts)
11. Anyone who didn't see this coming
Thu Jul 27, 2017, 09:23 PM
Jul 2017

had their head so far up their ass that nothing penetrated. To make matters worse, there are plenty who will do it again if they get the chance. There was no skin off their noses so they just.don't.care.

Great OP, JHan.


(19,460 posts)
13. They are already at it again.
Thu Aug 3, 2017, 12:21 AM
Aug 2017

Just note the most recent posts about Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, and soon Amy McGrath will be on the alt left chopping block.

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