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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 01:57 AM Sep 2017

White People Explain Why They Feel Oppressed

TOURE
Sep 17 2015, 12:00pm

I just didn't understand how so many white people in American could believe that they are the primary victims of racism. So, I asked some white folks about it to find out why.

Excerpt:

What Is Racism?

Some of the white people I talked with feel like many white people lack of a deep understanding of race and racism. Tim Wise said, "Whites are used to thinking of racism as an interpersonal thing, rather than institutional. So we can recall that time we got shitty customer service by a black person, or had some black person make fun of us for something, and we think, 'we're the victims of racism now,' paying no attention to the ongoing systemic imbalance in our favor." This is in part because the nature of privilege is that you don't have to think deeply about your privilege if you don't want to.

Erikka Knuti, a political strategist, said, "Part of white privilege has been the ability to not know that your privilege exists. If you benefit from racism, do you really want to know that?" I can see where it would be uncomfortable for people to admit that their lives are shaped by unearned advantages, especially in an environment where those advantages may be beginning to slip away, but the blindness itself is a part of the problem. White people have duties as part of the American community. They must be honest with themselves and their co-citizens and admit that white privilege shapes a lot of life in this country. They must understand that the truly pernicious, life-defining sort of racism is not interpersonal, it's institutional. The systems that shape who lives where, who gets educated, who gets jobs, who gets arrested, and so on, these things shape lives, and they are all heavily weighted in white people's favor. To ignore all of that is to misunderstand America. If white people admit those things, it will be plain that they are not, in any way, victims.



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White People Explain Why They Feel Oppressed (Original Post) MrScorpio Sep 2017 OP
There is truth in this radical noodle Sep 2017 #1
Absolutely... alotta truth. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2017 #2
laughable, to me heaven05 Oct 2017 #3
It seems racism is so institutionalized The Mouth Oct 2017 #4
I hear white people whining about this. ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #5

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
1. There is truth in this
Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:15 AM
Sep 2017

For the most part, they do not understand institutional racism, nor do they believe it exists. And really, they don't want to know.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. laughable, to me
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:11 AM
Oct 2017

especially with all the empirical truth about the causes of and the continuation of hate based on one's skin color, in ameriKKKa. Most white people who hate POC don't realize it's racist since it is normal behavior for them and when pointed out as racism, go to all the excuses instead of real self-examination....if possible, for them.....

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
4. It seems racism is so institutionalized
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:48 PM
Oct 2017

that even protesting racism is considered anti-American by some folks.

In fairness, even white folks who *try* really hard to not be racist can have a honestly hard time seeing the institutional advantages they've grown up with, have, and use.

ismnotwasm

(41,975 posts)
5. I hear white people whining about this.
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 05:33 PM
Oct 2017

“Oh, white People are just sooo bad” —then with some anecdotal story about how someone rejected them because the were white in some form or another. It’s whining in the true sense of the word, immature, bratty, impatient, drawing conclusions with poor information because with poor information you don’t have be responsible in the world of white privilege.

I quit listening to a favorite doctor of mine who does Facebook live casts because while he’s not white—he’s the son of Indian immigrants, he balances his show with two “conservatives” viewpoints. More libertarian when you listen too them, call themselves “socially liberal”. Both white guys, actually I think one is Latino, who are whiny when Whiteness is brought up, and on this show—it’s rarely brought up, apparently being too divisive for a medical show. Watching the comments, I see his show attracts the same kind of whiteness that doesn’t want to be responsible for Whiteness. It lessens the message this guy was trying to make, which was to advance and improve healthcare, bu using the people who provide it to become interactive.

In his struggle to “not be politically correct’, he became complicit in white supremacy.

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