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fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2012, 03:54 PM Jun 2012

100th anniversary of the villisca ax muders

found this in gd, x-posting for those who, like me, rarely wander over there. the story is very indepth.

VILLISCA, Iowa — On June 10, 1912, neighbors of Josiah and Sarah Moore began to wonder what was wrong next door when the curtains were still closed and nobody was stirring by 7:30 a.m. It was too warm to leave the windows down.

Josiah Moore should have been heading downtown to his hardware and implement store. And Sarah Moore and the children should have been among the other early risers of Villisca, even though they had been up late the night before for a special Sunday children's program at the church.

Something was beyond wrong in the Moore house.



http://www.omaha.com/article/20120610/NEWS01/120609881#100-years-of-mystery-the-villisca-ax-murders

i first learned about this case when the ghost hunting show i watch investigated the house.

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100th anniversary of the villisca ax muders (Original Post) fizzgig Jun 2012 OP
This story has always creeped me out. murielm99 Jun 2012 #1
ghastly stuff. thanks. fe6252fes Jun 2012 #2
Never heard of the case before Scairp Aug 2012 #3
Sad story Cherchez la Femme Oct 2012 #4

murielm99

(30,741 posts)
1. This story has always creeped me out.
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:23 AM
Jun 2012

The place still gives off bad vibes. It is easy to tell something bad happened there. The house itself looks evil.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
3. Never heard of the case before
Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:37 PM
Aug 2012

Thanks for posting this.

After reading this article and some other things about the case, I have a hard time believing that any of the suspects at the time of the crime were truly responsible. The bare known facts of the case make it more than likely it was one killer, methodical, a planner and the killings seemed somewhat ritualistic in nature, with the covering of the faces, the mirrors, the positioning of one of the child victims, and some of the other things found at the scene. He was very skilled at this because it's not easy to kill that many people and hardly anyone of them even saw it coming, or so it seemed. It wasn't his first time doing this kind of crime that's for sure. I believe that profilers divide these kinds of killers into organized and disorganized. He was definitely organized. It's a double tragedy that the scene was so compromised at the time, leaving little to go on forensically, even if today's LE wanted to try and get into this and figure out who may have done it. There could have been DNA left on clothing, though without refrigeration it would have no doubt degraded to nothing useful. What about crime scene photos? Not that I want to see children who have been hacked to pieces, but I'm not an investigator who would need those to try and figure out what happened. Items from the scene would have been very useful too, but no doubt souvenir hunters and time have made all the physical evidence go away long ago. I don't know, as I said I don't think any of those who had the finger pointed at them at the time did it. I think this guy, and it definitely was a man IMO, was either long gone and completely unknown to anyone by the time the crime was discovered, or he lived there and was a person whom no one would have ever suspected and lived a horrid double life, as a nice quiet respected person of the town and also an ax murderer. If my second theory was true, I think he stayed there for a reasonable time afterward, living his regular life, maybe even had a family, not bringing any attention to himself, then figured out a plausible excuse to move far away, maybe to California or another western state. Maybe to Europe. They talk about other ax crimes committed around the same time in the Midwest but I can't find any details on any of those crimes that might link any of them to Villisca murders. I would like to know if there were other mass killings after this one in any of the places I mentioned he may have absconded to eventually that bore resemblances to this one. I think he just melted into history. It's quite possible he did some minor crimes during his life like even the most skilled serial murderers do, but it was either so unrelated to anything like burglary or anything violent that no one even had the most remote idea it was him. Very unfortunately, this is unsolvable.

Cherchez la Femme

(2,488 posts)
4. Sad story
Sat Oct 6, 2012, 04:05 PM
Oct 2012

Serial killer, travelling by rail

same as in the Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run (Cleveland Torso Murderer)
IMO anyways.

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