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rocktivity

(44,653 posts)
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 06:00 PM Apr 2018

Facebook Live captures man shot in head

Last edited Thu Jul 15, 2021, 03:59 PM - Edit history (20)

ABC13.com: Facebook Live video shows the moment a man was...shot in the head.. around 2AM (April 1), leaving him in critical condition.

The victim, Devyn Holmes, was in a car with a woman and another man who were playing with two guns..."You're making me nervous," Holmes says in the Facebook Live, captured outside a (closed) Valero gas station...in Houston.

MTO: ...Devyn Holmes, Cadillac Coleman, and Cassandra Damper were sitting in a car when things turned deadly...Cassandra is seen...pointing the gun at Devyn, who tells her to stop. But...after hearing (from Coleman) that there was no "clip" in the gun, she...ended up shooting (Devyn) in the head...

(S)omeone called the police, and claimed that Devyn shot himself in the head...


MTO: Police are currently determining whether the killing was ACCIDENTAL -- or a SETUP...In...Facebook messages between Devyn and (Coleman)...just a few days before the "accident"...the two men appear to be arguing...



According to this ABC.13.com video from the gas station camera, Devyn enters the car, then Cassandra, then Coleman a few minutes later. They were all in there approximately nine minutes.

ABC3.com: ...Cassandra Damper...(who) was previously charged with tampering with evidence after police said she tried to wipe off her hands before testing for gun powder residue...is now charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.

The victim is currently responsive and in stable condition after surgery.

Link to cell phone video -- very graphic, but the first 27 seconds need to be looked at because you see Cassandra pull the trigger (the gun just clicks), then chamber and raise the gun before it went off -- which is why I smell a setup. Either:

- Coleman and Cassandra set up Holmes by convincing him to "squash their beef" in person: Sure, the meeting took place at 2AM in the parking lot of a closed business -- but with Cassandra in tow (as a "peace offering," perhaps?), a Facebook live stream going, and allegedly unloaded guns, why would Holmes have any cause for mistrust?

Or:

- Coleman set up Cassandra to believe she would be firing an empty gun in order to embarrass Holmes online with a "Russian roulette" style April Fool's joke.

It all depends on whether or not it's possible to chamber a bullet when:

a) there is no magazine in the gun
b) there is no magazine in the gun, but there is a bullet in the chamber
c) there is neither a magazine nor a bullet in the chamber of the gun
d) there is an empty magazine in the gun
e) there is an empty magazine in the gun, but there is a bullet in the chamber



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tblue37

(65,831 posts)
1. That doesn't look accidental. Also, they made no effort to staunch the bleeding.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:00 PM
Apr 2018

They didn't even exclaim in dismay--they just calmly exited the car as he sat there helpless and bleeding.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
2. You cant chamber a round without a mag in the gun, but one could be there already.
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:22 PM
Apr 2018

People shoot themselves a lot thinking the gun is empty because theres no magazine in it. Not thinking about the possible round in the chamber

rocktivity

(44,653 posts)
3. So you can't slide the gun if there's no magazine in it
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 07:36 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Wed Apr 4, 2018, 08:14 PM - Edit history (2)

but you can if it contains an empty magazine -- with or without a bullet in the chamber?


rocktivity

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
5. If there is no rounds in the magazine
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:25 PM
Apr 2018

The slide will hold open, not slide forward.

I don't believe their story.

marble falls

(59,581 posts)
6. After the last round is fired. You can pull the clip with one round in the chamber...
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 09:57 PM
Apr 2018

thumb back the hammer, if its not already cocked and pull the trigger. We had a "church shooting" here in Texas recently. Someone had pulled the clip and ejected the chambered round and handed it to person number 1. Then replaced the clip and jacked a round. The second person he showed off his pistol to got shot when the guy pulled the clip, hammered back on what he thought was a cleared chamber and pulled the trigger. He forgot he had re-chambered a round. This was a licensed concealed weapon permit holder. He was one of two guys the church had asked to be armed during services.

I don't go to my church anymore over the two guys armed at our church during services. One of them is over eighty.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
8. Why the hell were they handling the damn weapon IN CHURCH to start with??
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:02 PM
Apr 2018

Jeeze. The first rule of handling a firearm is to treat it as loaded.
Shame you had to leave because of such nonsense. But who could blame you?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
7. You can pull back the slide with with or without a mag in it
Wed Apr 4, 2018, 11:00 PM
Apr 2018

But you can't chamber a round without a magazine containing one.

rocktivity

(44,653 posts)
9. Sorry if I'm making a mountain out of a molehill
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 12:35 AM
Apr 2018

Last edited Thu Jul 15, 2021, 04:04 PM - Edit history (3)

But that means that since Cassandra was able to cock the gun (and she didn't look inexperienced at it), she either knew or should have known that

a) the gun HAD to have contained a magazine (regardless of what Coleman said); and

b) she had just readied a bullet to be fired.

They're both guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy -- or will be, now that their victim has been declared brain dead.


rocktivity

mikeysnot

(4,761 posts)
11. Why do I hear Peter Sellers Inspector Clouseau
Thu Apr 5, 2018, 07:39 AM
Apr 2018

when I read.... Not anymore...


Gun fondlers keeping it real.

Rocknation

(44,653 posts)
12. 2024 Update: After six months, Damper released on "shock" probation
Mon Jan 15, 2024, 03:54 PM
Jan 2024
ABC13.com, 6/2020: Cassandra Damper was sentenced to serve 10 years for an aggravated assault count and five years for a tampering with evidence charge.

She pleaded guilty...after the April 2018 shooting of Devyn Holmes...(who) survived, but has had to undergo rigorous rehab since then...A judge ruled in favor of granting (Damper) "shock" probation...(after serving)...six months...(and) will lay out the conditions of her probation for the next nine and a half years.

Damper's attorney...praised the judge's decision..."I don't consider this a 'get out of jail free' card...(T)his is a judge...using all the tools in his box to apply justice in this case...(by) coming up with other means...of just incarceration..."

I suspect that it was something in Damper's toolbox that made her nine years of probation possible -- her ability to snitch.


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