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Auggie
(31,156 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)For the benefit of El Supremo, I have prepared some stats for comparison:
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Nick Johnson, Designated Hitter, Baltimore Orioles: AB: 63 BA: .206 . HR: 4 RBI: 11. OBP: .324
Steve Strasburg, Pitcher, Washington Nats: . . . . . . . .AB: 19 BA: .375 . HR: 1 RBI: 1 . OBP: .412
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El Supremo
(20,365 posts)It's not the runs. It's keeping the excitement going.
And one stinking pitcher with only 19 at bats? There are always a couple that are off the trend. You have to look at them all, like I showed you.
El Supremo, apparantly Mr. Strasburg hits a lot of HR's in batting practice. He's a pretty good hitter. As are the other pitchers on the Nats actually including Gio Gonzalez who was an AL pitcher last year. Hmmm. Fancy that, a team with pitchers that can hit, and they are in first place ATM. Hmmmmm
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)They are the best in the NL. So what?
They have a .202 BA and .221 OBP.
The rest of baseball has a .250 BA and a .317 OBP.
All NL pitchers have a .120 BA and a .153 OBP
http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/team/_/stat/batting/split/77
TZ
(42,998 posts)Come on. Watching Stras hit a home run is fun. Watching Gio Gonzalez run around the bases with a big goofy grin is fun.
I don't LOATHE the DH like some, but I do enjoy watching pitchers bat. It adds a little bit to the game IMO.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)And you can DH for any player. Strasburg could actually hit if the manager wanted. But I'm sure there would be somebody who's better.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)On the other hand, if I were a major league-calibur manager, I wouldn't take a job with a team that doesn't play baseball.
And please stop the steer manure that it's not about runs. Every time you cite an offensive statistic, it's about runs. Batting average, on base percentage or whatever are meaningless unless the team scores runs.
And it's true that American League teams score more runs than their National League counterparts. They score about half a run per game more. They ruined baseball for half a run per game. I hope Bowie Kuhn, the feckless commissioner of baseball in 1973, got his thirty pieces of silver for that. I doubt it. Charlie Finley was too cheap.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)There will always be fans who like to stare in dumbness when a pitcher comes up to bat. Needless to say that is their normal state of consciousness. For me, it is a time to go eliminate or get a beer.
But for those who are actually alive and like to see glued-to-your-seat action in a baseball game - the way it was meant to be before the pitchers lost their ability to hit a ball, then the American League, and all the other leagues with the DH, is the game to watch.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)When did pitchers have the ability to hit?
Baseball is intended to be about the total ballplayer. If you use his strengths, you must also suffer his weaknesses. Not every player could be Willie Mays. Dick Stuart drove in runs by the bushel for the teams for whom he played; he also kicked quite a few in owing to the prowess at first base that earned him the moniker Dr. Strangeglove. If Charlie Finley had his way, Stuart wouldn't have had to play the field, just hit. If he got a hit, then he be replaced for a pinch runner. And then he could come to bat again. Only one batter would have been needed in Finleyball, because if he got on base some Olympic track star would run for him. Then you'd have your fielding specialists playing defense. That would put an end not only to the fact that the pitcher can't hit, but the shortstop, too. Fortunately, Bowie Kuhn, who was idiotic enough to let Finley talk him into the DH, was so lame that he could let Finley talk him into that.
Do you like a game with free substitution? Where everybody is a specialist? Then watch the NFL. Leave baseball to real baseball fans.
BTW, do you have any sense of irony? What's this steer manure about staring at dumbness when the pitcher comes up? Using the DH is what is dumbing down baseball, not thinking along with the manager making an important decision. Deciding what to do in a specific, concrete situation celebrates that which sets us apart from lower species: newts, chimps, Wall Street bankers and sports fans who sit on the couch and guzzle beer in front of the boob tube all afternoon. The ability to think strategically and tactically is why the human species survived. That's right, us. Homo sapiens, who can reach a top speed of about 25 mph for only short distances and looks like a kangaroo dancing when climbing a tree. Hail to the quick thinkers among us, and blessed be that which celebrates our ancestor who had the sharp wit to pick up a stone and throw it at a hungry sabre toothed cat, and cursed by that which mocks the man who thinks.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)I realize your post is a joke but the pic makes it look like they're falling asleep during an AL game.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)Why else?
(good eyes)