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Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:59 PM Sep 2014

No Red Sox. No Yankees. No ratings. Good luck MLB.

All you Red Sox/Yankees bashers have gotten your wish. A baseball post-season without either the Yankees nor the Red Sox for the first time in 20 years.

Guess what else this post-season won't have: ratings. I predict that the ratings for this post-season will be the lowest in MLB history. America is not going to watch the Oakland A's play the KC Royals on a Tuesday night.

Red Sox/Yankees brought passion and fire to the post-season. This year, all that you will have is a bunch of no-name teams with no-name players playing in non-descript towns.

Maybe now some of you bashers will finally understand why ESPN and Fox put the Red Sox/Yankees in prime time.

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No Red Sox. No Yankees. No ratings. Good luck MLB. (Original Post) Yavin4 Sep 2014 OP
Why don't we reduce the league to two teams then? LonePirate Sep 2014 #1
Heh! Sour grapes madinmaryland Sep 2014 #2
Since you can't play... El Supremo Sep 2014 #3
It's not me. It's America. Yavin4 Sep 2014 #4
Yeah no one in LA TZ Sep 2014 #7
I am totally bored shitless by the lame stream sports media sucking madinmaryland Sep 2014 #11
Such hostility. Calm down. eom Yavin4 Sep 2014 #24
+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2014 #31
whoop-dee-fucking-doo.. frylock Sep 2014 #5
This is why TZ Sep 2014 #6
+1 Auggie Sep 2014 #8
I've always been impressed TZ Sep 2014 #9
Yeah right... joeybee12 Sep 2014 #23
Curt Schilling TZ Sep 2014 #27
Douchebags are one thing, criminals are another...nt joeybee12 Sep 2014 #28
Jesus Christ JonLP24 Sep 2014 #10
"I felt like I had to include so much detail to counter a remarkably ignorant post." Best Comment madinmaryland Sep 2014 #12
Yeah I'm not sure where he gets no name from TZ Sep 2014 #14
But DC is just a non-descript town, doncha know charlie and algernon Sep 2014 #22
As a fan of baseball, what do I really care about the ratings? hughee99 Sep 2014 #13
Please tell me all the "big names" that are on the Yankees and Red Sox this year? hughee99 Sep 2014 #15
You must not live in New England ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #17
I actually live about 20 minutes from Pawtucket hughee99 Sep 2014 #18
I'll be watching. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #16
So what are we supposed to do now? Kingofalldems Sep 2014 #19
I think the MLB should give automatic playoff berths to both teams every year. trotsky Sep 2014 #20
Sigh.... charlie and algernon Sep 2014 #21
No name teams? No name players? Gemini Cat Sep 2014 #25
I don't care about ratings. Iggo Sep 2014 #26
I'm more likely to watch now. GoCubsGo Sep 2014 #29
And now you can add Billy Beane's spectacular trade fail to the list. Initech Oct 2014 #30
If Americans didn't watch the Royals win the wildcard game... Shame on them. tridim Oct 2014 #32
Wow, so elitist 1gobluedem Oct 2014 #33
Here's hoping they never make the playoffs for years GusBob Oct 2014 #34
I think you may be off with the ratings thing RockaFowler Oct 2014 #35
Local ratings, not national Yavin4 Oct 2014 #36
But these teams are in the playoffs RockaFowler Oct 2014 #37
5.2 million people watched A's/Royals TZ Oct 2014 #38
5.2 million is pathetic. Yavin4 Oct 2014 #40
Yes TZ Oct 2014 #42
Also TZ Oct 2014 #43
"The game was on TBS not network TV" Yavin4 Oct 2014 #44
If someone doesn't watch the MLB playoffs Bluzmann57 Oct 2014 #39
Come on, can't we put this thread to rest? El Supremo Oct 2014 #41
Dodgers. Angels. Giants. Nationals. Tigers. Ratings. Good luck MLB. KamaAina Oct 2014 #45

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
1. Why don't we reduce the league to two teams then?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:21 PM
Sep 2014

The league might as well fold if its destiny and success hinges on only two teams.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
11. I am totally bored shitless by the lame stream sports media sucking
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:48 PM
Sep 2014

the ****'s of the Skanks and Roid Sox.

FUCK THEM. The rest of AMERICA outside of New York and Boston hate the media and those two fucking teams. Get a fucking life and enjoy some fucking exciting baseball!!

frylock

(34,825 posts)
5. whoop-dee-fucking-doo..
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:03 PM
Sep 2014

maybe MLB can match those two up in an alternate series or something, to appease all the bandwagon jumpers.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
6. This is why
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 06:12 PM
Sep 2014

People hate Yankee and Red Sox fans. The sheer arrogance. Clearly no one in DC Baltimore LA or San Francisco watch baseball despite all those teams having attendance in the top 1/2 of baseball. I went to a bunch of sold out Nats games this year but nope- no one will watch them.

TZ

(42,998 posts)
9. I've always been impressed
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:15 PM
Sep 2014

By the SF fan base. They are loyal and they travel. And unlike NY/Boss fans still show up in droves even during down years

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Jesus Christ
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:39 PM
Sep 2014

I can't imagine why anyone would bash the Yankees or Red Sox with posts like this.

First, I'll describe the kind of viewer I am. I haven't watched a single regular season game this season or last year. Unless I have Fox Sports Arizona which I don't, I catch The Rockies when they face Arizona. Nationally televised games always feature the same teams, not to mention teams I don't care about. I get sick of seeing the Cowboys on my TV screen. Not only that, there is so many other sports that I'd watch over baseball. Even though, I'll watch post-season baseball, the NFL or even an Indiana Fever-Minnesota Lynx WNBA game caught my attention. Also this new format kills it for me. I always hated the way LDS was set-up because I'm a firm believer in 7-games. (it gives the best chance for the best teams to advance) Instead of fixing that which the NBA wisely did years ago, they added an even more unreliable way of seeing the best teams advance. 2012 I felt like I needed more from Rangers-Orioles & especially Atlanta & St. Louis. Then witnessed every LDS go 3-2, again felt like I needed more. I only paid attention to San Francisco-Cincinnati. Since then, I haven't seen much post-season. Now finally, I'm more likely to watch the up and coming teams in Baltimore, Kansas City, Oakland, Pittsburgh, and Washington much more than Yankees or Red Sox or for that matter Detroit, LA teams, and St. Louis. I'd rather see Detroit and LAA play Tuesday night but mostly because of the A's. They're a legit team that is good at everything and Josh Donaldson may be a no name but it isn't his fault. Not to say Kansas City isn't for real, they have great pitching and Alex Gordon caught my radar a few years back.

All the teams that are there are all teams that have been in the mix recent seasons so I don't know how you expect significant change. I can't take your no name teams/players comment seriously w/ both LA teams, San Francisco, Detroit, & St. Louis in a post-season which will feature Mike Trout, Kershaw, Andrew McCutcheon, Adam Jones, Bryce Harper. Tigers & A's and St. louis & Pittsburgh drew better ratings than Red Sox & Tampa Bay. There could be a slight drop-off due to fans assuming the Giants, Dodgers, or St. Cardinals will roll but I think interest in AL will be strong w/ a fresh team like Baltimore playing like a power.

Boston & St. Louis did have great ratings but so did San Francisco & St. Louis . In 2012 I watched Baltimore-New York more than any AL series because I had strong interest in Baltimore. Would have watched them against anyone. A big thing that helps Boston ratings wise is storylines, 2003 was a big one for obvious reason but when NY & Miami went instead I barely paid attention. 2013 they had the worst to first thing but it wasn't enough me.

Point is I expect to be about the same because there are already established national ratings teams, they will still get smashed by primetime. However the early format kills it for me as a viewer.

On edit = sorry for the long post, I felt like I had to include so much detail to counter a remarkably ignorant post. I wish I could bet on "lowest ratings in history" prediction but it is so easy predicting the opposite as easy as predicting firms will use bullshit in there advertising.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
12. "I felt like I had to include so much detail to counter a remarkably ignorant post." Best Comment
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:51 PM
Sep 2014

Ever!!!

TZ

(42,998 posts)
14. Yeah I'm not sure where he gets no name from
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:07 PM
Sep 2014

Just in DC alone Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg aren't exactly low profile players .

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
13. As a fan of baseball, what do I really care about the ratings?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:52 PM
Sep 2014

Sure, you can use them to make the argument that team A or team B has a larger following, but if the series is good, why would I really care if advertisers are getting their money's worth or not? Why would I be happy to watch the Red Sox/Yankees turds like I saw over the weekend for the next month just because lots of other people were watching it too?

The Red Sox pretty much brought up their entire minor leagues this year for a try-out and if the Yankees had spent a little less time on the Derek Jeter farewell tour, Derek Jeter might still be playing in meaningful games this year. Neither of them should be in the playoffs, and these playoffs will be better off without either of them.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. Please tell me all the "big names" that are on the Yankees and Red Sox this year?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:08 PM
Sep 2014

As a Sox fan, I spent a good deal of time asking myself "Who the fuck is this guy" (see Mookie Betts, Brock Holt, Christian Vazquez, Jackie Bradley Jr., and most of their pitching staff). If I were a yankees fan, I'd know the players a little better, since you're not fielding a team of rookies, but I suppose I'd spend more time asking "When is this guys contract finally up?" (See Teixeira, Beltran, Ichiro, McCann, Soriano, Headley, Sabathia, and Phelps, not even mentioning A-Rod who didn't play all this season)

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
17. You must not live in New England
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:41 PM
Sep 2014

I thought Jackie Bradley Jr and Mookie Betts were going to have their number retired before their first game the way the local Sox fans talk.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. I actually live about 20 minutes from Pawtucket
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:45 PM
Sep 2014

I was kind of kidding about not knowing who they are, but neither was someone who I should have seen on a decent Red Sox team this year.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
16. I'll be watching.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:27 PM
Sep 2014

My Buccos will be there, hopefully for more than one game. If Yankees and Red Sox fans don't like baseball, that's their problem.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
20. I think the MLB should give automatic playoff berths to both teams every year.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 07:44 AM
Sep 2014

It's clearly what America wants.

Gemini Cat

(2,820 posts)
25. No name teams? No name players?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 10:00 AM
Sep 2014

That's too bad they can't get their collective heads out of their asses to enjoy what will be a great post season. It is baseball after all.

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
29. I'm more likely to watch now.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 05:33 PM
Sep 2014

I'll have no problem watching the A's play the Royals. It's a refreshing change from watching the two teams the networks have been shoving down my throat all these years to a point where I can't stand either of them.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
32. If Americans didn't watch the Royals win the wildcard game... Shame on them.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 08:18 AM
Oct 2014

They're more exciting and better than either of those overrated east coast teams.

Robotic Jeterball is over.

1gobluedem

(6,664 posts)
33. Wow, so elitist
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:08 PM
Oct 2014

And so wrong. Over a million fans have attended Tigers' games each of the last three seasons. The pitching rotation for the Orioles series features the last three AL CY Young winners and the last two AL MVPs.

I love the cities of Boston and New York. But you need to climb out of your bubbles and realize there is a lot more in this country and that includes some pretty good sports teams with some pretty rabid fans all over the country. Watch the Tigers anywhere in the country and you will find a HUGE contingent of fans.

Good grief. Have a little cheese with your whine.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
34. Here's hoping they never make the playoffs for years
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 02:14 PM
Oct 2014

so real fans from real baseball cities can see their teams play in postseason

not a bunch of stuck up fans

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
35. I think you may be off with the ratings thing
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:09 PM
Oct 2014
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/09/29/Media/MLB-RSNs.aspx

The top 5 teams with the highest ratings were:

1. St Louis
2. Detroit
3. Pittsburgh
4. Kansas City
5. Cleveland

Cleveland is the only team NOT in the playoffs. The only team in the playoffs in the bottom 5 is Los Angeles Dodgers

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
37. But these teams are in the playoffs
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 03:36 PM
Oct 2014

So the people in those cities (most are above average size) will skew the ratings

It may not work in Florida, but it will in Missouri, Michigan, Ohio & Pennsylvania

TZ

(42,998 posts)
42. Yes
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:37 AM
Oct 2014

And what ratings do NY and Bos have. Another dumbass argument. Don't compare apples to oranges!

TZ

(42,998 posts)
43. Also
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:42 AM
Oct 2014

The game was on TBS not network TV. You need to try harder! Why don't you compare the network Super Bowl to the WC game so you can Cherry pick MORE data!

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
39. If someone doesn't watch the MLB playoffs
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:39 PM
Oct 2014

because of no Red Sox or Yankees, then they aren't really baseball fans anyway.
And the St. Louis Cardinals have a HUGE regional following, the state of California is well represented, and the Royals and Pirates are good stories, in particular the Royals.

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