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Years ago, when it appeared that Mayweather and Pacquiao might reach an agreement to fight, the editor of The Ring magazine suffered from a moment of clarity: it was likely, he noted, that Floyd would simply rely upon his superior ring skills to win a one-sided decision over Manny. That, he stated, would be a major disappointment for boxing fans. Few things, it seemed, would show the inability of Pacquiao fans to appreciate the mere possibility that much of the boxing community supports Mayweather.
Not to be out-done, the HBO announcer stated before the fight that many viewed it as a confrontation between good and evil. Since few people who support Floyd refer to Manny as evil, its fair to assume that Jim Lampley -- still bitter about Floyds going from HBO to Showtime -- was speaking of Mayweather.
The fight itself was a classic Floyd Mayweather performance. In nine of the twelve rounds, Manny Pacquiao landed less than 10 punches. Mannys over-all connect rate was a career-low of 19%. (81 of 429 thrown). Mayweather landed at 34% (148 of 435 thrown).
In terms of jabs, Mayweather landed 67 of 267 thrown (25%); Manny connected with 18 of 193 thrown (9%). Per power punches, Floyd connected with 81 of 188 (48%); Pacquiao landed 63 of 236 (27%).
While neither man was seriously hurt in any round, both were able to connect when their opponent was open and off-balance. Thus, both men stumbled at least once during the bout. But the fight was fought almost exclusively at the pace that Floyd dictated. The Pacquiao fans attempted to inspire Manny to pick up the pace several times, especially in the late rounds. However, Manny was either unwilling or unable to do so.
Two judges scored it 8 rounds to 4, and the third had it 10 to 2. Perhaps the biggest surprise was that it did not take several rounds for Floyd to access Manny and make adjustments -- he established his superiority in the first round, and imposed his will through to the end.
The biggest non-surprise was the sour grapes being gargled by both the sports journalists who dreamed of a Pac-Man victory, and the pro-Pacquiao / anti-Mayweather fans on social media. It wasnt a super fight. Floyd is no Carmen Basilio. This was so boring that it will kill boxing. Floyd is no Muhammad Ali. Right, right -- as long as we are talking about the older version of Ali, since the young champion was hated by an even larger percentage of Americans than Floyd is today.
Several people have correctly noted that last nights fight was very similar to the second Frazier versus Ali bout. It was the only one of the three scheduled for 12 rounds. Ali was focused upon one thing, and one thing only: getting the win. He fought a careful fight, winning more rounds than Smokin Joe. Afterwards, Joe complained that Ali pushed down on his neck on the inside, and clinched frequently. Indeed, Ali did. And he won a one-sided decision of the great heavyweight champion, Joe Frazier.
Pacquiao and Freddie Roach attempted to use a shoulder injury as their excuse after the fight. The human parasite Bob Arum did, too -- until a journalist asked him if, considering how much the public paid to watch the fight, he knowingly sent an injured Manny into the ring? As always, Arum whimpered out of both sides of his mouth in response.
Mayweather noted that he had injured both arms and both hands in training, when he met with journalists in the post-fight press conference. This is, of course, common when men in their mid- to late 30s train very hard for a fight. Boxing is a hurt business, and that includes training camps.
The majority of the questions posed to Mayweather were disrespectful attempts to discredit his amazing victory. In a calm, rational manner, Floyd was able to redirect the discussion, and to focus on what is important. He handled the reporters with more ease than he did Pacquiao.
Two of boxings all-time great champions entered the ring last night. Floyd won a lop-sided decision, based upon his intelligence, ring generalship, and physical skills. After the decision, two of boxings all-time great champions left the ring -- for that dynamic had not changed. Manny Pacquiao did not lessen his legend. Rather, Floyd established his superiority. Both men deserve our respect. Both are nearing the end of their outstanding careers, and we will not see anyone like either of them again.
twogunsid
(1,607 posts)I can't say I was disappointed. I think it would have been a more compelling match if it had happened a few years earlier. Both men are great Champions and my congratulations to Mayweather on his win.
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Two great champions entered the ring; two greats left the ring.
Both made 4 times what they were offered five years ago to fight. From a business sense, I understand why they waited. But it would have been a more meaningful fight back then.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)In case you haven't figured it out by now, H2O man, you are my go to source for boxing-related matters.
My friend bought the fight and invited me over to watch. It was good, although I thought the Clippers/Spurs game was better.
Why did Manny back off when he had Mayweather in trouble in Round 4 (I think). Do you remember what I am talking about? Floyd was against the ropes and Manny had his best moment of then night. I was thinking that he would try to KO him, but then he backed off. Did Manny miss an opportunity there?
Is it true that the reason the fight didn't happen all these years is because Manny refused to undergo PED testing?
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)Floyd had thrown a right towards Pacquiao's chest; Manny anticipated it, and shot a straight counter right down the pike. It hit Floyd cleanly on the face, and as he was slightly off-balanced, he stumbled to regain his balance. It was then that his back was to the ropes, and Manny unleashed a 16-punch flurry. Yet, of those, only one landed cleanly -- to the body -- and another was only partially blocked. The other 14 were blocked well.
Had Manny continued to flurry, he'd have wasted energy. Then he knew Floyd would counter, hard, during those seconds he would require to catch his breath. Instead, he opted to move away. He had done enough to win the round. (After 4, I had it 2-2.) He was in a good spot.
An experienced fighter can tell if an opponent on the ropes is hurt -- including how badly -- two ways (and you don't think consciously at the time, you just know): how well does he block shots and how his body responds to each one. The first is how his mind is working; the second, his body -- for a person can be "hurt" either mentally, physically, or both. When Manny "knew" Floyd wasn't hurt beyond that first second of the "down the pike" impact, he did the right thing.
Now, per the PEDs: yes, it is absolutely true. The single best resource is, if I recall from the top of my large head without "googling," Floyd's camp (specifically, Ellerbe, though we never released this) approached ESPN's Teddy Atlas, who reported this in detail in Feb 2010: he showed Teddy two texts. The first said, If Manny fails the tests, how much of a fine will you demand? The second said, If we agree to what you may ask, will you agree to keep it secret FOR THE GOOD OF THE SPORT?
Everyone in the boxing community, no matter if they like Teddy, or agree with him on issues, respects him as 100% honest. He is loyal to boxing, and boxers. Despite being told not to report on this -- ESPN didn't want to "get involved" -- and actually having his job threatened, Teddy reported the Truth of what he had seen.
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)After 5 rounds, I had it 3-2 for Floyd. Manny did well in rounds 4 and 5.