Proposed SOP change in Sports

[Renew Deal]

Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2012, 02:09 PM - Edit history (1)

The incidents from the Sports Group have been a topic of conversation amongst the hosts. There seems to be some confusion about what this forum is about. I think a slight change to the SOP will clear things up.

Here is the current Statement of Purpose: "Discuss all things related to sports."

Here is the proposed "Statement of Purpose: "Discuss all things related to sports. In the Sports group we like to go at it like rabid dogs. Anything goes except bigotry and mean spiritedness."

Please let me know what you think about the new SOP. Please let me know if any changes should be made.

[Condem]

1. Sounds fine to me, Renew.

I see very little instances of mean spiritnedness. Hopefully, we get more folks to hang.

[Condem]

2. And for the love of Christ, Renew.

Can we get rid of joey's pinpointed thread at the top? It's most definately driving a lot of potential groupites away.

[Renew Deal]

8. lol

I took it off.

[HuckleB]

3. This sounds good, although I'm not sure this would prevent the current "sports group controversy."

Uh, if that is the goal...

Thanks for taking on the host role!

[El Supremo]

4. That is good.

I'd hate to include more exceptions, but some might be necessary.

[Auggie]

5. Suggestion:

Define mean-spiritedness. It's a little open-ended, IMO.

[Condem]

6. It may mean don't take anything personal.

We are what we are.

[Renew Deal]

7. It's meant to be.

I don't want to go through a list of guidelines. Maybe there's a better way to say it?

[Condem]

9. Nah, Renew, you said it just fine. n/t

[Auggie]

11. It's open to interpretation by one's definition of mean-spiritedness...

but if the Hosts concur, so be it. Let's see how it plays out.

[madinmaryland]

13. mean-spirited is defined as...

hating the Dallas Cowboys!!

Just kidding!

[SpiralHawk]

10. Affirmative

Make it -- or something like it -- so.

[trumad]

12. just make it like it was in DU2 and we'll be fine.

[madinmaryland]

14. Sounds good to me. And thanks for un-pinning joey's thread!

[fishwax]

15. I'm fine with the change, though I agree w/ HuckleB that it wouldn't prevent the current controversy

[Upton]

16. I don't care how it's done..

but we need the same level of tolerance we had in the DU2 Sports Forum. If you feel this SOP change is a step in that direction..fine.

[charlie and algernon]

17. works for me

[MaineDem]

18. Does "bigotry and mean spiritedness" include sexist language?

I hope so.

[Renew Deal]

20. Yes

It's also meant to reassure DU that bigotry will not be tolerated and to tell the juries and other outsiders that if they find people fighting in here, it's OK if it's within the customs of the sports forum.

[ProfessorGAC]

19. It's A Work In Progress

We can just all learn as we go. I don't think your idea has ny real downside.

[Old and In the Way]

21. I think that's pretty good.

Every forum can have different standards of acceptable decorum, I think - if the majority concur. The Sports group is certainly a place where flaming is a feature, not a bug.

[Jack Rabbit]

22. Sounds like the sports forum we've come to know and love

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[era veteran]

23. Sounds good to me.

As long as I get to talk shit.

That's good natured sports shit.

[1gobluedem]

24. I'm fine with it

Except you might want to add sexism as some people don't consider biogtry and sexism the same thing.

[WilliamPitt]

25. Mean-spiritedness?

Might need clearing up. I'll burn this motherfucker down before I'm anything other than cruel and savage to a Jets fan.

[madinmaryland]

26. This coming from a Cheatriot fan and a fan of the great Satan.

Shit. Now I sound like Joeybee4!!

[Renew Deal]

27. The Sports group is no longer on the latest page by default.

The admins have changed the default setting for Latest. It is now Main-Political. This excludes Sports from the latest. I will still try to find out how to make this change.

[madinmaryland]

28. Are you suggesting that we want Sports on the latest?

I think that is what caused a lot of confusion the first few days.

[Renew Deal]

29. No

I'm saying that we might be OK now except for the juries.

[MaineDem]

30. Thank you; I was looking for this thread

When will this change take place?

[RockaFowler]

31. I like it

We are a wild bunch here. I like it like that. I like coming here and laughing.

And yes I'm a girl who likes to make fun of other girls and guys - no matter what sport you like

Oh yeah and no Tennis Threads - that's for Joey

[madinmaryland]

32. BTW, autoracing IS a sport.

[RockaFowler]

33. No Way!!

How can it be a sport if you just drive in circles all day??

At least Roller Derby you can knock the other girls down

[MaineDem]

37. Real auto racing turns left and right

Not just that roundyround stuff.

And I know some kick-ass female racers who have been known to \"elbow\" their way through a pack of cars.

[RockaFowler]

38. LOL

[madinmaryland]

40. I prefer the road-race courses, but the super speedways are pretty fun also!

The short tracks just don't do it for me.

[MaineDem]

36. Totally agree!

[ScreamingMeemie]

39. If the Spelling Bee can be broadcast on ESPN, well then...

[RockaFowler]

41. My Company runs the Spelling Bee

I liked it better when they aired it on ABC

[ScreamingMeemie]

46. My daughter was speller number 107 in 2002.

It was funny to see the trucks lined up.

(She was knocked out on Amaryllis).

[joeybee12]

34. CATS!

We MUST be allowed to talk about cats!

[RockaFowler]

35. Take that stuff to the Lounge

Unless it's Cat Tennis



That is wrong. But OMG that was the first picture when Cat Tennis popped up on Bing

[madinmaryland]

42. Just wonderful. Now you will have all the SPCA folks over here!!

I have three cats...

[RockaFowler]

43. I have 3 dogs

I would find it even more hilarious if it were Dog Tennis

[joeybee12]

45. pardon me while I speed dial PETA!

[MaineDem]

44. We've gotten a bit off topic

So, seriously, what needs to happen to make this change?

[caraher]

47. I'm not sure how this works

I'm all for banning "bigotry."

I endorse expanding ban that explicitly to cover sexism. Of course, we can have huge debates about what's on which side of that line; My standard would be that the women here do not find a hostile environment. I don't think we're there right now.

"Mean spiritedness" does include the can of worms known as divining a poster's intent. I think it's fine to post threads that will tick off someone else because the OP mocks their favorite team or athlete. That's the kind of "go at it like rabid dogs" stuff that belongs.

I think it's not fine to post a thread simply to aggravate someone who has a different idea about what should be in bounds here. Tease someone about who they root for, their tastes in sport, etc. but don't be obnoxious for the sake of staking a claim to a perceived right to be obnoxious.

[HuckleB]

48. +1,000,000,000,000

Sexism should be included in bigotry, but it appears that things to be made more specific.