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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,920 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 09:46 PM Feb 2019

Bart Scott: NFL should strip Patriots of 'whole draft' over Robert Kraft scandal

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has found himself at the center of a disturbing sex trafficking scandal, and the always outspoken Bart Scott is calling for the NFL to drop the hammer on the team as a result.

Scott, an ex-linebacker who now hosts a show on WFAN, said Friday that he feels NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should do something that “cripples” the Patriots. He proposed stripping them of all of their 2019 draft picks.

We don’t know all the facts from the sex trafficking sting Kraft was allegedly involved in, but there’s virtually no chance of that happening. While NFL owners are subject to the league’s personal conduct policy the same way players are, a punishment that harsh would be unprecedented.

Scott hates the Patriots, which makes sense considering he used to play for the New York Jets. The circumstances are much different this time, but he has always been quick to rip the Pats any chance he gets.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bart-scott-nfl-should-strip-patriots-of-whole-draft-over-robert-kraft-scandal/ar-BBTXwXo?li=BBnb7Kz

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Bart Scott: NFL should strip Patriots of 'whole draft' over Robert Kraft scandal (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2019 OP
I totally agree with him gopiscrap Feb 2019 #1
I disagree. The individual needs to be reprimanded and suffer the consequences. vsrazdem Feb 2019 #2
i agree. as much as i dislike the patriots. kraft should be forced to sell the team. bullimiami Feb 2019 #4
I believe his fucking cheating team gopiscrap Feb 2019 #13
Bart Scott can go f himself. dem4decades Feb 2019 #3
Yup. bluedigger Feb 2019 #19
As much as I dislike the Patriots, they shouldn't be punished for their idiot owner. Staph Feb 2019 #5
Totally disagree TheFarseer Feb 2019 #6
They should burn down the stadium and salt the earth. hughee99 Feb 2019 #7
I agree gopiscrap Feb 2019 #14
No erpowers Feb 2019 #8
Given some of the other owners offenses in the past, do you think this warrants a forced sale of the hughee99 Feb 2019 #16
At Most erpowers Feb 2019 #17
The NFL owners would have to approve of any new buyer, hughee99 Feb 2019 #18
Kraft should be proactive and exboyfil Feb 2019 #9
That's just stupid, and nothing but click bait. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2019 #10
Make him sell the team. Iggo Feb 2019 #11
Ummm Are you folks aware flotsam Feb 2019 #12
As we know from the past, a person doesn't need to be convicted of anything to be hughee99 Feb 2019 #15

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
2. I disagree. The individual needs to be reprimanded and suffer the consequences.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:00 PM
Feb 2019

I do not believe punishing the team, players and fans is appropriate.

bullimiami

(13,084 posts)
4. i agree. as much as i dislike the patriots. kraft should be forced to sell the team.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:06 PM
Feb 2019

and get penalized by the league if that's applicable.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
19. Yup.
Sun Feb 24, 2019, 09:44 PM
Feb 2019

We're reaching hysteria levels when people call for Kraft to be forced to sell his team over a misdemeanor.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
5. As much as I dislike the Patriots, they shouldn't be punished for their idiot owner.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:27 PM
Feb 2019

According to today's USA Today:

Regardless of how the legal process plays out for Kraft, the league still could levy a punishment against him. According to the conduct policy, "It is not enough simply to avoid being found guilty of a crime. We are all held to a higher standard and must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, promotes the values of the NFL, and is lawful."

The policy also stipulates, “Ownership and club or league management have traditionally been held to a higher standard and will be subject to more significant discipline when violations of the Personal Conduct Policy occur.”

The last time an NFL owner was suspended for a violation of the personal conduct policy was in September 2014 when Colts owner Jim Irsay was suspended six games and fined $500,000 after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor count of driving while intoxicated on pain killers after an arrest in March 2014.


I'd like to see him suspended for the season (it's no fun owning a team if you can't be there when they play!) and a fine in the millions of dollars.


TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
6. Totally disagree
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:29 PM
Feb 2019

What did any of the players, coaches or fans have to do with this? BUT if Donald Sterling had to sell the Clippers, Kraft has to sell the Patriots.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
7. They should burn down the stadium and salt the earth.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:38 PM
Feb 2019

This is a serious matter related directly to football operations, and the team needs to be punished severely for this.

Normally, the other NFL owners would be all over this, but they may be concerned that it would set a new precedent and their own private lives maybe aren’t all that scandal free either. He’ll get a fine and a suspension whether he actually gets convicted or not.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
8. No
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 10:53 PM
Feb 2019

Making a team pay for the actions of a man is not fair to the team. The Patriots, as a team, did nothing wrong. The team did not get an unfair advantage from Robert Kraft getting a sex act at a massage parlor. There is absolutely no reason to take the team's draft picks for 2019. At most, Robert Kraft should be given a massive fine.

On edit: Other than fining Robert Kraft, the NFL should force Robert Kraft to sell the team. If he refuses, then start threatening to weaken the team. If he does not sell the team, take away the team's 2019 draft picks. After that, force the team to forfeit all of their games until Kraft sells the team. After that, fine the team every day that Kraft does not sell the team. After that, consider kicking the team out of the NFL until Kraft sells the team.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
16. Given some of the other owners offenses in the past, do you think this warrants a forced sale of the
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:10 AM
Feb 2019

team? And what would the NFL do if he sells it to his son?

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
17. At Most
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 09:48 AM
Feb 2019

I think somewhere in my post I said at most the NFL should force him to sell the team. I am fine with the NFL leveling a large fine against Robert Kraft. However, considering the woman who performed the sex act on him may have been forced into that career, maybe he should be forced to sell the team. I assume the NFL can mandate that he not sell the team to any of his family members.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. The NFL owners would have to approve of any new buyer,
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 11:09 AM
Feb 2019

So while the don’t think Goodell could tell him he can’t sell to his son, he could indicate the other owners wouldn’t approve it.

As far as the origins of the woman are concerned, unless Kraft knew how she got there, it seems a little extreme to punish him for it. Again, a forced sale seems a little extreme (for a misdemeanor) given that other owners have been accused or even found guilty of felonies in the past and not forced to sell. If I understand correctly, although several NFL owners have been pressured to sell their team, no owner has ever actually been forced to sell. Given that this would, in a practical sense, have to be approved by other owners, and their own private life might not be all that squeaky clean, I’d be very surprised to see them go to this extreme.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
9. Kraft should be proactive and
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:01 PM
Feb 2019

Make a substantial donation to charities that work for missing and exploited children and abused women. 8 figure substantial along with a public confession and apology. Public service at a shelter for his sentence.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
10. That's just stupid, and nothing but click bait.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 11:18 PM
Feb 2019

Just another idiot trying to get attention...evidently it is working.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
15. As we know from the past, a person doesn't need to be convicted of anything to be
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 01:07 AM
Feb 2019

punished by the league. Unless it turns out it's a different "Bob Kraft" (which I doubt), the NFL will impose a penalty regardless of whether he's convicted or not. Given that this has nothing to do with football, I don't see how the penalty will be team related (like draft picks). He'll get a fine and have to sit out some games. That's what they did for Irsay when he got caught for a DUI and drug possession, though he actually did plead guilty to the OWI. $500k fine and a 6 game suspension.

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