Colin Kaepernick was banned for kneeling. What does Myles Garrett get for assault?

[Auggie]

Kaepernick's ban was unofficial -- kneeling during the National Anthem. But make no mistake, he was punished.

What does the league do with Garrett?

Your thoughts?

[exboyfil]

1. Suspended for rest of season

Short lease after that. Quickly escalating penalties for other personal fouls.

2 games for Pouncy for punching and kicking.
1 game for Ogunjobi for pushing down the helmetless Rudolph.
1 game for Rudolph for trying to take off Garrett's helmet and kicking him in the groin.

It could have very easily been a Marty McSorley/Donald Brashear incident if the crown instead of the padding had hit Rudolph.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

9. Rudolph better get more than that.

If he were stronger, it seems he would have done what Garrett did to him.

[Iggo]

24. The assault should be punished harder than the assault and battery?

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That's an interesting take.

(EDIT: I originally asked "The unsuccessful helmet removal should be punished harder than the successful assault & battery?", but in the spirit of my belief that there is no such thing as attempted assault, I changed it.)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

17. At the very least

I watched Garrett when he was at the University of Washington. I'm extremely disappointed.

[JonLP24]

20. Kicking someone on the ground is ugly should be more than 2 games

If people are floating lifetime bans for Garrett.

[underpants]

2. Rest of the season and some serious money.

He'll be lucky if he isn't charged.

[Ohiogal]

3. His actions crossed the line

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Fine and suspension at the very least

Ugly, ugly, ugly

If they want to ban him from the league, I’d support that, too

[livetohike]

4. Tossed out of the league. End of career. I'm a Steelers

fan, but this was really bad.

[Freedomofspeech]

5. I agree.

[Auggie]

8. I'm leaning that way ...

and I grew up a Browns fan.

I found it rather ironic that at halftime FOX showed a clip of a pile-driving sack of Terry Bradshaw by Cleveland DT Joe "Turkey" Jones from 1976. Jones lifted Bradshaw off his feet, and drove his head into the playing field. Todays's Bradshaw grimaced and grinned at the footage, but I've heard him talk of it before. Video here:

Rudolph is seemingly okay. I hope that's the case.

I was watching that Browns-Steelers game in 1976.

[livetohike]

11. I remember seeing that hit on Bradshaw when it

happened. Our two teams have always gotten after each other and I guess we expect it. This was definitely too much.

[Auggie]

12. Really too much. There was 8 seconds left and a 14 point lead ...

I was wondering why the starters were still in game.

I've always admired the Steelers. The Rooneys are smart owners. It filters down from the top, a component missing in the Browns organization for decades.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

13. The Steelers guy curb stomping Garrett was out of control, too.

I doubt he will get what Garrett gets.

[Auggie]

14. Pouncey admitted as much. He was protecting his quarterback ...

and is being called a "hero" by teammates, other players, and Steeler fans.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/15/maurkice-pouncey-a-nfl-hero-for-kicking-punching-myles-garrett/

[JonLP24]

21. Rudolph was fighting Garrett as much as he was fighting him

Garrett's helmet crossed a line but so did the Steelers pinning him to the ground and kicking him. I bet he is a hero to his teammates while Garrett's teammates are on his side but the actions by all involved are ugly but this isn't a Malice in the Palace situation.

[Auggie]

23. Pouncey crossed the line, and the three game suspension is warranted IMO

[JonLP24]

25. The NFL suspended 3 black players but not the white quarterback

[Auggie]

28. The NFL owes fans an explanation why

[livetohike]

15. That's a good question. I was at the last Steelers/Browns game before the

team moved to Baltimore. Many of us stood with our backs turned to the field to protest the move. We didn’t know what to expect for the future. It was sad to think we would lose our backyard rival.

Maybe your new coach will harness the energy of all of that young talent and get you guys to the playoffs. My brother in law is a Browns fan. I always say they have a mixed marriage 😀.

[Auggie]

16. I think Kitchens is in over his head. It was a controversial hire from the beginning ...

not because of his head-coaching or play-calling experience (he had none to little), but because he had a "relationship" with Mayfield.

Really? That's the rationale in Cleveland? Yeah, like drafting Johnny Manzeil because it would be "cool." (they really said that).

And then trading away needed draft choices for Beckham. You trade for Beckman to fill a hole, not to rebuild. Bad move that will haunt for years.

As a Steelers fan you should be thrilled. They'll be back. The Rooneys will see to that, and it'll be two team conference again -- Baltimore and Pittsburgh. That's a worthy rivalry.

[Rebl2]

6. Should be the end

Of his career in football. No excuses. If someone on the street did this they would be charged with assault.

[bluedigger]

7. Out for the rest of this season and first half of next year.

In a perfect world, the Cleveland PD would arrest him for assault, as the offence happened after the whistle. I hope Rudolph sues the shit out of him.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

10. Ref needed to call a penalty right away for the hit on Rudolph.

Had that happened, the whole fight might never have happened.

That said, Rudolph needed to keep his shit together and not try to take off Garrett's helmet and start that fight. And, of course, Garrett needed to not assault a guy with a helmet.

[JonLP24]

22. I thought he hit him as soon as the ball released

I don't think it was roughing the passer but I think Rudolph got frustrated.

[underpants]

26. From what I saw it was late

The receiver either already had the ball or it just about to get to him.

They play each other again in 17 days. I saw that in the schedule at the beginning of the year. I would expect the League and the NFLPA to have some come to Jesus meetings with both teams. This MAY have been a factor in what Myles did. The Browns pretty much have to win out to have a shot at the playoffs and playing against a third stringer in one game would help.

[JonLP24]

27. Either way Myles Garrett made a football play

Then Rudolph tried to ripping his helmet off which led to Myles taking his helmet off instead.

[Brother Buzz]

18. The NFL suspended Myles Garrett without pay indefinitely.

Indefinitely. And the local police are NOT investigating, so there's that.

[Auggie]

19. Thanks for the update. Pouncey got three games, Ogunjobi one ...

and each team was fined $250,000.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28087446/browns-myles-garrett-suspended-indefinitely-steelers-maurkice-pouncey-gets-3-game-ban