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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,757 posts)
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:44 PM Nov 2019

Kaepernick throws passes for 40 minutes at strange workout

RIVERDALE, Ga. (AP) -- Colin Kaepernick threw passes for about 40 minutes on a high school field, then signed autographs for hundreds of fans who gathered in an end zone to watch his NFL workout that was suddenly moved Saturday, the latest strange twist in the saga for the exiled quarterback.

About six team representatives made it to the new location, including Philadelphia Eagles vice president of football operations Andrew Berry. It appeared the Jets, Redskins and Chiefs also had someone in attendance.

Just 15 minutes before Kaepernick was scheduled to work out for 25 NFL teams at the Atlanta Falcons' training complex in Flowery Branch, his representatives announced the session had been moved 60 miles away to a high school in Riverdale. The stunning move seemed to catch everyone off-guard and came about an hour before the rescheduled workout was set to begin, putting many in scramble mode.

Kaepernick threw passes to free agent receivers Bruce Ellington, Brice Butler, Jordan Veasy and Ari Werts.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/kaepernick-throws-passes-for-40-minutes-at-strange-workout/ar-BBWRONh?li=BBnb7Kz

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RockRaven

(14,907 posts)
2. The NFL apparently demanded he sign a non-standard injury waiver before the workout
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 08:59 PM
Nov 2019

at the Falcons' facility. The non-standard bit included signing away his rights to sue the league in the future for labor violations (or whatever the appropriate legalese is). From the one article I read, it sounded like he/his lawyers were fine with the usual injury waiver, but not the additional language. And since he wouldn't sign away his rights, they would not allow it to go forward, so Kaepernick's people found an alternate site.

According to profootballtalk/NBC this whole thing was the brainchild of a lawyer in the league office (they name the specific lawyer) who remained concerned that Kaepernick's original settlement only covered the time up to that settlement and wanted to get him to sign away his right to sue for what has(n't) happened since then/into the future.

This whole thing was a stunt by the NFL, as predicted. Specifically, either they get him to sign away his rights, or he looks flaky for bailing out.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
5. I don't understand how a GOON like Myles Garrett
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:59 PM
Nov 2019

gets to play, while Kaep is held to the sidelines. In case you haven't seen the video of Garrett's attack on the Steeler's QB, it is an unprecedented violent attack never seen before in the league. He brutally rips the helmet off Rudolph's head (which could have dislocated his neck), then smacks it down on his head. He's suspended for six games (and any possible play off games), but really, WTF ????? He says he "lost his cool." I'm not buying it.

And Kaep STILL doesn't get a fair chance.

Consider this: EIGHT million Jehovah's Witness do not salute the flag;
200,000 Amish to not stand for the national anthem. One BLACK man respectfully kneels and the repubs lose their damn minds. Now we know why he knelt.

Screw the NFL. Kaep, I'm a veteran, and I'd kneel next to you any day.

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
8. Garrett is suspended "indefinitely"
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 09:08 AM
Nov 2019

He won't play in 2019. His status for 2020 will be decided after a meeting with the NFL.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
9. Kaepernick can still file a lawsuit against the NFL
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:31 AM
Nov 2019

They were trying to get him to sign away his future lawsuit rights. This wasn't a good faith effort at all by the NFL.

He should have been given a standard waiver.

4139

(1,893 posts)
3. Have to have permission to hold event at a high school?
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 09:17 PM
Nov 2019

It seems to me he planned it in advance.

Not sure he’s actually interested in going back to the nfl

4139

(1,893 posts)
6. ...and because of the sudden change in location and time scouts could go as they
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 10:17 PM
Nov 2019

had flights to catch, tomorrow is Sunday and the scouts have games to go to

Brother Buzz

(36,385 posts)
7. He'd go back into the NFL on his terms, but that ain't gonna happen
Sat Nov 16, 2019, 11:01 PM
Nov 2019

There is a huge rift between Kaepernick and the NFL, and it's not likely to be resolved.

Kaepernick's buddy, and fellow kneeler, Eric Reid, quoted Malcom X to explain the problem, "You don't stick a knife in a man's back nine inches and then pull it out six inches and say you're making progress".

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
10. Colin Kaepernick's original NFL workout fell apart because the league wanted him to sign a waiver to
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 05:35 AM
Nov 2019

Colin Kaepernick's original NFL workout fell apart because the league wanted him to sign a waiver to protect itself from future employment lawsuits

Colin Kaepernick was scheduled to take part in a private workout in front of NFL teams on Saturday, but the event fell through.
According to a document obtained by NBC Sports' Pro Football Talk, the league tried to force Kaepernick to sign a waiver to protect itself from the quarterback pursuing legal action, like collusion or retaliation lawsuits, against it.
Kaepernick refused to sign the document and instead hosted his own private workout open to all teams an hour after the scheduled NFL workout, but fewer franchises attended than were expected to participate in the NFL-run version.

Heading into the weekend, it looked as though Colin Kaepernick was well on his way to getting another shot in the NFL.

(snip)

Instead, the NFL's original event fell apart, in large part because the league tried to force Kaepernick to sign a waiver to protect itself from future lawsuits.

According to a copy of the three-page document obtained by NBC Sports' Pro Football Talk, the league included language regarding Kaepernick's employment status that could have barred him from accusing the NFL of collusion or retaliation. Kaepernick has famously engaged in litigation against the league over claims that he has been blackballed by NFL owners since he last played in 2017.

The second paragraph of the waiver required Kaepernick to acknowledge that he was "made no promise of employment" and that "his participation in the Workout does not guarantee" that he "will be offered employment."

On its own, that language likely wouldn't limit the quarterback's legal freedoms — but combined with legalese a few paragraphs down, it could easily restrict his ability to pursue legal action against the NFL in the future.

The seventh paragraph required Kaepernick to "hold harmless National Invitational Camp, Inc., National Football Scouting, Inc., the owner(s), operator(s) and manager(s) of the Facility, any and all individuals participating in or present at the Workout, including, without limitation, Joe Philbin, the National Football League ('NFL') and each of its 32 NFL Member Clubs, and each of the foregoing parties' respective direct and indirect affiliates, partners, subsidiaries, agents, representatives, employees, shareholders, officers, directors, attorneys, insurers, successors and assigns (collectively, the 'Released Parties'), from and against any and all claims, demands, actions, causes of action, suits, grievances, costs, losses, expenses, damages, injuries, illnesses, and losses (including death) caused by, arising out of, occurring during, or related directly or indirectly to the Workout, Player's presence at the Facility, and any medical treatment or services rendered in connection with or necessitated by Player's participation in the Workout."

If you strip the paragraph down to its bones, the NFL is requiring Kaepernick to "hold harmless ... the National Football League ('NFL') and each of its 32 NFL Member Clubs ... from and against any and all claims, demands, actions, causes of action, suits, grievances, costs, losses, expenses, damages, injuries, illnesses, and losses (including death) caused by, arising out of, occurring during, or related directly or indirectly to the Workout."

A broad reading of that stipulation — and specifically the "related directly or indirectly to the Workout" clause — could be interpreted as an attempt to limit Kaepernick's ability to claim that the NFL and its franchises are colluding to blackball him from the league.

Kaepernick refused to sign the document and instead hosted his own private workout open to all teams. Far fewer franchises attended than were expected to participate in the NFL-run event, but the film shows that Kaepernick still has quite a powerful arm.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-kaepernick-workout-bust-over-lawsuit-rights-2019-11

I'm not sure the NFL is interested in signing him making him go through this unusual workout process. Most if not all workouts are not like this. They give people standard waivers not this which I'm sure Kaep's lawyers told him wisely not to sign.

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