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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 12:40 PM Jul 2020

Confederate flag again flown over NASCAR race

For the second time since NASCAR banned displays of the Confederate battle flag last month, one was flown over the site of a Cup Series race.



On Wednesday, the flag was towed by an airplane over NASCAR’s All-Star race in Bristol, Tenn., after previously being spotted above a race in June at Alabama’s Talladega Superspeedway. Whereas the banner to which the flag was affixed last month also bore the message “Defund NASCAR,” this time it included a website URL related to a group called Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV).

The commander in chief of the Tennessee-based group, Paul C. Gramling Jr., did not immediately respond Wednesday to a request for comment. In remarks last month to the Columbia Daily Herald, Gramling said, “It is the hope of the Sons of Confederate Veterans that NASCAR fans will be allowed the fundamental American right of displaying pride in their family and heritage. … We believe NASCAR’s slandering of our Southern heritage only further divides our nation."

NASCAR did not provide official comment on the SCV’s action in June, but Steve O’Donnell, the stock-car racing organization’s executive vice president and chief racing development officer, called the perpetrator of the stunt “a jackass” at the time in a tweet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/motorsports/confederate-flag-again-flown-over-nascar-race/ar-BB16OBAO?li=BBnb7Kz

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stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
8. Not a lot NASCAR can do about this
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jul 2020

and essentially the "jerks" are just wasting their money. Certainly not gaining any ground in this battle.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
9. Why does the sport of auto racing represent a "safe hate" to you?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 03:33 PM
Jul 2020

NASCAR has been exiling overt racists from their "sphere of influence" for DECADES. I've NEVER seen a confederate flag, or similar "icon", for sale at any of the myriad souvenir or "apparel" vendors at any track in my experience.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
12. Wendell Scott fan since the 1960's, here.
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 06:58 PM
Jul 2020

And not a fan of Big Bill France, in particular regard to his actions to Wendell Scott, or the track at Talladega, AL. It should be noted that LeeRoy Yarborough punched France in the mouth at the drivers meeting for the inital race there
But should you condemm a sport enjoyed by millions,for the acts of a few? Or do you have some other stereotypes to bring out?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Yeh, how many Obama and Clinton cars did you see in the MAJOR races?
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 07:14 PM
Jul 2020

It’s not just a few fans.

I get you like it, with your user name, but it’s a sport that has pandered to racists for decades. I know there are exceptions, like you, but still. . . . . . .

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
14. Stereotype much??
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 10:11 PM
Jul 2020

Blantantly patronizing........ At the top levels, the sponsors are buying advertising. The Clinton and Obama campaigns chose to not lay out $50K/ race, is all. Using a sponsorship well requires coordinated exploitation, it's not NASCAR's choice to not engage that audience, but the campaign's.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
10. The elite "Buffet Assault Unit"
Thu Jul 16, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jul 2020

"Sons of Confederate Veterans" present themselves as "reasonable racists". You might call them "Strip Mall Nazis"

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
18. The "Trump 2020" sponsored cars had finishes similar to Trump's approval ratings last Sat/Sun.
Fri Jul 17, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

They finished 31 and 22. Got absolutely zero TV exposure for the $500,000 invested. Plus, there were zero fans in the stands.

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