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Ohiogal

(31,966 posts)
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:35 AM Jul 2020

I applaud Cleveland manager Terry Francona

His comments in the Plain Dealer today on changing the name of the Cleveland Indians. (Note that Francona has ties to the city of Cleveland that go way back to when his Dad played there).

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In the past, whether he was being asked about the Indians name or the recently retired Chief Wahoo logo, Francona would demur with a response that never quite satisfied those seeking a change.

“I would usually answer and say I know that we’re never trying to be disrespectful,” Francona told reporters Sunday during a Zoom call from Progressive Field. “And I still feel that way. But I don’t think that’s a good enough answer today.”

Francona now recognizes that simply kicking the can down the road on the team’s name controversy will no longer suffice.

“I think it’s time to move forward,” Francona said.

The death of George Floyd, in which four Minnesota police officers have been arrested and charged with murder, has prompted a nationwide movement to eliminate symbols of racism and intolerance. The 61-year-old Tribe manager said even at his age, he wants to remain open to expanding his world view.

“You don’t want to be too old to learn or to realize that, maybe I’ve been ignorant of some things, and to be ashamed of it, and to try to be better,” Francona said.

https://www.cleveland.com/tribe/2020/07/terry-francona-on-cleveland-indians-name-controversy-its-time-to-move-forward.html

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I applaud Cleveland manager Terry Francona (Original Post) Ohiogal Jul 2020 OP
He is something else! luvs2sing Jul 2020 #1
You're exactly right! Ohiogal Jul 2020 #2
Proud to say MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #3
Yep, I know what you mean. Ohiogal Jul 2020 #6
I'm a tribe fan from way back and was glad they got rid of the chief wahoo logo. brush Jul 2020 #4
Me, too. Ohiogal Jul 2020 #5
Let's go with the "Cleveland Buckeyes" farmbo Jul 2020 #7
The Blues? Robins? Gulls? Commodores? Guardians? Capt. America Jul 2020 #8
I think they're leaning towards Tribe. we can do it Jul 2020 #9

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
1. He is something else!
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:03 PM
Jul 2020

I mean that in a good way. He’s always trying to be funny and self-deprecating but, when you read stuff like this, you realize he thinks a whole lot deeper than he lets on and is a whole lot smarter than he lets on. I adore Tito!

Ohiogal

(31,966 posts)
2. You're exactly right!
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jul 2020

If Tito, who works and practically lives with this diverse bunch of guys, for half a year every year (normally). comes to this conclusion, than that’s good enough for me and it should be good enough for the fans. He’s very popular in Cleveland.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
3. Proud to say
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

he was raised in western Pennsylvania (New Brighton) and unfortunately there are still pockets of places here that would not necessarily take such an "enlightened" view.

Ohiogal

(31,966 posts)
6. Yep, I know what you mean.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jul 2020

I’m in NE Ohio about 15 min. from the PA line. We have our share of unenlightened folks around here,too.

brush

(53,764 posts)
4. I'm a tribe fan from way back and was glad they got rid of the chief wahoo logo.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jul 2020

I would like to hear from a native American on this. The name "Indian" doesn't seem insulting to me like the logo was. Certainly not like the Washington football team's name. Now that's a racial slur. Enlighten me, pls.

Ohiogal

(31,966 posts)
5. Me, too.
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jul 2020

I’ve thought the Chief Wahoo image was very embarrassing for a long time, but it’s unbelievable the number of Tribe fans who made a big stink over getting rid of it.

farmbo

(3,121 posts)
7. Let's go with the "Cleveland Buckeyes"
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jul 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Buckeyes

Cleveland’s Negro team from the 1940s... and two time Negro World Series winners.

And if the OSU Buckeyes won’t go along... we’ll stage an alumni uprising.



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