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OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:17 PM May 2020

Starting 6th week of isolation...and I have 2 questions to ponder, regarding birds.

(1) What attracts birds to birdfood? Smell? Food energy and brain-processing (lightwaves)? Other birds? Anyone have any ideas. Talking regular wild birdseed.....

(2) Sitting on my back porch tonight, I heard what I think was a game/ground bird creating attention/looking for a mate.

The sound lasts about 10 seconds. Starts off as a singular, very muffled low freq sound, then amps up to a very repetitive muffled sound. Like cranking up a lawn mower with an oversized muffler, before it dies out. Don't think it's a turkey, but thinking it might be grouse. Seen a couple on the property over the past few weeks....

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Starting 6th week of isolation...and I have 2 questions to ponder, regarding birds. (Original Post) OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 OP
I have often wondered, but I suspect it's visual. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #1
I think so, too....it's visual. But the food must give off a different heat signature? OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #2
Good question. I had some feed out in some bird seed out last year, and they ... SWBTATTReg May 2020 #3
I hear it and it sounds like someone trying to start a very tired motor. bum....bum.....bum OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #4
Here's a closeup of a grouse with good sound. KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #9
That's exactly it! Thanks for posting! OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #10
Other birds sarge43 May 2020 #5
Cardinals are the most skittish.....I have a pair coming in for brief forays. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #6
Our pair of Cardinals are. sarge43 May 2020 #15
Squirrels... N_E_1 for Tennis May 2020 #7
Have a chipmunk and a small red squirrel that visit. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #8
Raccoon, probably. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
Or a porcupine.....had one in the yard this past week. 3 sightings. OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #12
Interesting article on bird vision. KY_EnviroGuy May 2020 #13
I believe this! OAITW r.2.0 May 2020 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
1. I have often wondered, but I suspect it's visual.
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:20 PM
May 2020

If I refill a bird feeder it usually is a matter of minutes before they start showing up. The goldfinches are usually first. If I put out peanuts, blue jays appear out of nowhere. Birds have very good eyesight and I think the birds who have already been to that feeder know exactly what they are looking for. Other birds who haven't been there before might be attracted by the sight of birds already at the feeder.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
2. I think so, too....it's visual. But the food must give off a different heat signature?
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:26 PM
May 2020

It took about 2 weeks after I put up feeders before the 1st chickadees showed up. They seem to have very little concern about humans as I can hang out on the deck and they dine and dash. Got woodpeckers coming in for the suet, a pair of cardinals, blue jays, even morning doves. Lots of finches and non-descript little birds. I also throw food on the ground and I have a single female showing up...think she is nesting nearby.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
3. Good question. I had some feed out in some bird seed out last year, and they ...
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:27 PM
May 2020

ignored it (the tiny BB like seeds). The seed sat in the feeder and I ended up having to throw it away.

And I think you're right, it sounds like a grouse you're hearing. They puff up their cheek pouch or throat pouch (I am not sure what) and slowly let it out in stages. It doesn't sound like tree frogs or something like that (what you're hearing). Maybe a bird watcher will 'chirp' in?

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
4. I hear it and it sounds like someone trying to start a very tired motor. bum....bum.....bum
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:33 PM
May 2020

lots-of bums for a few seconds, then quiet. I'm going with the grouse.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
9. Here's a closeup of a grouse with good sound.
Tue May 19, 2020, 10:03 PM
May 2020


It does sound like a badly tuned lawn mower trying to start.

KY.......

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
5. Other birds
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:47 PM
May 2020

They'll watch. If one or two appear safe, get in and out alive, others will start coming in. Among our gang, mourning doves, blue jays and chickadees seem to be the advance guard. When they hang out, others will show up soon.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
6. Cardinals are the most skittish.....I have a pair coming in for brief forays.
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:52 PM
May 2020

Funny thing about the males. Very territorial. Many years ago, I had a male attack my truck's side view mirror -incessantly. It apparently thought it was another male. Then my cat took notice. Found red feathers by truck....the end.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
15. Our pair of Cardinals are.
Wed May 20, 2020, 08:05 AM
May 2020

They come in early, grab a couple of beak fulls and get out before the mob shows up.

Many stories about male cardinals beating themselves silly attacking their reflection. Testosterone, it's a hellva drug.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,721 posts)
7. Squirrels...
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:55 PM
May 2020

They find the food, make such a racket, visually signal with their tails, when they leave usually after a bird flies at them... the birds come.

Squirrels are nature’s whistleblowers.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
8. Have a chipmunk and a small red squirrel that visit.
Tue May 19, 2020, 09:58 PM
May 2020

Got something else that visits on the deck....not sure, but scat is pretty impressive.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
12. Or a porcupine.....had one in the yard this past week. 3 sightings.
Tue May 19, 2020, 10:21 PM
May 2020

Had a pine table on the lower deck. Legs are chewed to shit....pretty sure it was a porcupine that gnawed on those legs. Always take a look before I open the door at night.....

Amazing what you see when you have endless hours to look.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
13. Interesting article on bird vision.
Tue May 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
May 2020
How Birds Got Their UV Vision
By Tanya Lewis February 11, 2013

See: https://www.livescience.com/26994-how-birds-uv-vision.html

I'm sure birds have a natural instinct for spotting foods that are part of their natural diet. Their sensory systems are far more keen than ours and fine-tuned for survival, like robins hearing worms in the ground.

Also, I've read many times that birds are far more likely to hang around our feeders when there are safe zones nearby such as trees and bushes where they can hide and feel secure. There are some things that keep them away from my feeders such as stray animals and loud noises in the area.


KY.........

OAITW r.2.0

(24,467 posts)
14. I believe this!
Tue May 19, 2020, 10:55 PM
May 2020

I think they key into a visual heat signal that says - this is food. Sure they notice other birds, but I set my feeders out for a week/10 days before they found it. I do have protection in the form of trees close by, 30 feet or so. The feeders are 15 feet off ground, so they have a clear line into the feeders. The birds are definitely growing and I enjoy the company!

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