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Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:10 PM May 2012

EC 2012 predictions: Group C

I'd hoped to get all group stage predictions in before Saturday's round of friendlies, but I'll have to hurry to do so. As before, all additions and corrections by more knowledgeable fans are most welcome.

Group C is another interesting group, featuring a not-to-be-missed Italy - Spain clash, as well as the return to international football of Ireland and the always dangerous Croatia.

Ireland

Ireland are back after 10 years. Apparently this has lead to veritable Euro Fever at home, and they're expecting to bring a bigger contingent of fans even than England are. This can only be good for tournament atmosphere and general feelings of bonhomie between rival sets of fans. Their squad is decent, but thin. Keeper Shay Given is apparently an injury worry and would be a massive blow if he weren't fit in time. Same for Richard Dunne and Damien Duff. Shane Long and Robbie Keane will presumably be the major goal threats, as grandmother-burying Stephen Ireland has vowed never to play for the Republic again after his teammates made fun of his hair implants once. Managed by the 73 years old, but still very spry Giovanni Trapattoni, do Ireland stand a realistic chance of finishing ahead of Spain or Italy? My heart says yes, my head says no and besides it's time to clean the gutters, and my bowels say I've had too much to drink again last night. Ireland would have stood a much better chance had they faced notoriously slow-starting Italy first rather than last.

Croatia

Croatia are managed by Slaven Bilić, who has fortunately made a complete recovery from a mysterious eye injury after being hit in the chest by Laurent Blanc some years back. Ignorance on my part finds it difficult to gauge their prospects in this group, but there's nothing wrong with some of the likely names on the teamsheet: Ćorluka, Modrić, Vukojević, Pranjić, Olić and Eduardo. This seems a fairly balanced squad, well-placed to compete for second place behind Spain in this group.

Italy

In international tournaments, Italy roughly alternate between ignominious first round exits and peaking at the right time to threaten for the title. The former option results in being pelted with rotten fruit by adoring fans upon return, so - especially in light of WC 2010 disaster - they may prefer the latter option this time. Italy have also never won an EC to date and so will be motivated. It can't help their cause that they open against Spain, though, who now know that it's possible to beat them, and may as well do so to get them out of the way early. I suspect Italy will compete with Croatia and Ireland for second place. Italy are managed by Cesare Prandelli who would, in my opinion, be making a serious mistake if he took Balotelli with him. A talented player, but a disaster for team morale. It wouldn't be long before he'd start throwing darts at his teammates, set fire to the bog, or crash his Ferrari into a van filled with Polish nuns. There's something wrong with his head and he's just not worth it. One of the more striking visuals from Man City's season this year occurred when Balotelli went down with an injury or cramp at the stroke of half-time, and his team mates walked off the pitch right past and over him without the slightest care, concern, or interest in his welfare. I don't know if a final squad has been announced yet, but Buffon will surely be in goal and have lots of his Juventus teammates on the squad with him.

Spain

Spain are, of course, the reigning World and European champions after decades of failing to live up to expectations. They're often mentioned in the same breath as Barcelona and the total footballing teams, Ajax and the Dutch side of the 70's. So why is it that the results of their matches in their World Cup-winning campaign two years ago could have been expressed in single-digit binary notation? 0-1, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0, 1-0. It might be fair to point out that it's because of their opponents choice of tactics, figuring it was their only way to contain them. If that assumption still holds true, we're not exactly going to be in for a treat with Spain matches. But I don't want to be fair, I liked them better when they didn't live up to expectations: I also don't like dynasties! Boo! Down with dynasties! Let's have a fresh winner! It's hard to argue the quality of their squad though. Managed by Rene Artois' older brother, Vincent del Bosque, Spain will have Casillas in goal again, leaving Pepe Reyna once again on the bench to pick splinters out of his backside and nurse resentments. Puyol will captain the defence, Iniesta and David Silva will be the providers in the middle, and we might possibly even see Torres up front. Villa is sadly unavailable because of a broken leg.

Predictions

June 10

Spain - Italy: 2-0. Spanish joy as Italy's negative tactics fail to deliver.
Ireland - Croatia: 0-0. What a letdown for everyone concerned. Both teams want to win but cancel each other out.

June 14

Italy - Croatia: 0-0. Super Buffon keeps a clean sheet despite numerical possession advantage for Croatia.
Spain - Ireland: 3-1. Ireland surprisingly take the lead but sadly it only makes Spain mad.

June 18

Italy - Ireland: 1-0. Italy think they've done enough. Ireland are incapable of breaking them down.
Spain - Croatia: 1-2. After the final whistle goes in the Italy game, Croatia score in a surprising 94th minute winner against Spain to go through. Bedlam! Italian press and fans are screaming the fix was in, and that Spain didn't do their professional duty. It makes no difference.

Standings

Spain 3 2 0 1 6 5-1
Croatia 3 1 2 0 5 2-1
Italy 3 1 1 1 4 1-2
Ireland 3 0 1 2 1 1-3

Spain and Croatia qualify.

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EC 2012 predictions: Group C (Original Post) Ron Obvious May 2012 OP
Who is this "Pepe ReYna" of whom you speak...? regnaD kciN May 2012 #1
Oops! Ron Obvious May 2012 #2
I am going to Poznan tomorrow to be a plastic paddy for a few days. Lars77 Jun 2012 #3
Good Luck! Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #4
Back! Lars77 Jun 2012 #8
I like this attitude Rambis Jun 2012 #5
Puyol not on the Spain team many a good man Jun 2012 #6
Both players will be missed. Metatron Jun 2012 #7
Viva la furia roja! a la izquierda Jun 2012 #9
Me too! Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #10
I thought the game was boring as hell too. a la izquierda Jun 2012 #11
Spam deleted by Warren DeMontague (MIR Team) crazymana11 Sep 2012 #12
 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
2. Oops!
Sat May 26, 2012, 10:50 PM
May 2012

Hey I already confessed to having had too much to drink!

I'd be damn proud of myself if that was the only name I screwed up.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
3. I am going to Poznan tomorrow to be a plastic paddy for a few days.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jun 2012

Hopefully we'll get tix for Ireland-Croatia.

Lars77

(3,032 posts)
8. Back!
Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:16 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Tue Jun 12, 2012, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

That was fun. First we attended a public viewing of Poland's game against Greece. Probably 100.000 people out in the streets of Poznan. Probably 20.000 irish, about 10.000 croats, and loads of poles.

Actually managed to get a ticket for Ireland-Croatia. Ireland has the weakest team in the tournament, but the best fans by far.

Will post a video i took from the stadium when its done editing in youtube.

Here's the video. PS, turn down your volume..


many a good man

(5,997 posts)
6. Puyol not on the Spain team
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

Barcelona captain Carles Puyol was left off the national team due to lingering injuries. I'm not sure how Spain can cope with the loss of my favorite player in the world.

David Villa is still recovering from his broken leg. He provided a couple of clutch winning goals in the World Cup run. I hope Spain can make up for it.

Despite these losses, Spain has the best team in the world and I fully expect them to set a new record by winning EC 2012 and become the first team ever to win EC-WC-EC back-to-back-to-back!

Metatron

(1,258 posts)
7. Both players will be missed.
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 11:12 PM
Jun 2012

But, I still think Spain will win. It's that special time of year when Catalans and Madridistas join together.

What I want to know is why is Spain ranked 3rd? What kind of insane algorithm does FIFA use?

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
10. Me too!
Mon Jun 18, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jun 2012

Me too, although I'm not entirely sure it's for the same reason!

This was really only the first really dull match of the tournament. I can't understand the excitement about Spain (and Barcelona), really. Watching Spain ping the ball around with 57 consecutive short passes is about as exciting to me as Germany - Austria 1982 was. As Arsene Wenger so rightly put it: "It's sterile domination".

EC 2008-winning Spain were brilliant. WC 2010+ Spain are soporific.

a la izquierda

(11,784 posts)
11. I thought the game was boring as hell too.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:20 AM
Jun 2012

As was the Ireland/Spain match. Part of the excitement for me is imagining my best friend screaming at the TV like a complete maniac (he's from Madrid). It's hysterical to watch.

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