Religion
Related: About this forumReligion Group Hosts Proposal (Please vote by Thursday at 11:59PM EST).
Here is the proposal cooked up in the discussion thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218129
I will be the lead host. Like I said, I will be hands off except to deal with off topic issues and problems between the hosts which I do not anticipate. The people chosen represent both the theist and atheist points of view which was important to many people.
The other hosts are:
muriel_volestrangler
ZombieHorde
cbayer
struggle4progress
We are doing this on the principle of openness. Locking an on-topic thread would also require a unanimous vote of the four other hosts or three of them and myself. Dismissing a host would require a unanimous vote. The point is to make sure that it's very difficult to do anything. It's to keep this place open as much as possible.
This does not safeguard this group from the juries. If someone posts something that is considered "bigoted" by a jury, we can't help you.
Here are the options when voting. You may vote Yes, No, or No Hosts. If you support the proposal, vote yes. If you oppose it, vote no. If you believe there should be no hosts, vote for No Hosts. Yes needs a majority of all votes to pass. All votes must be in by Friday 12/15 at 11:59PM EST. Votes cast after that time will not be counted.
Notes about if hosts are unavailable: a host who wants to lock an ON TOPIC thread should alert on it as if it were a violation of the Statement of Purpose -- but should explain in the comment box that thread is on-topic and should explain the reasons for wanting to lock. all hosts would then automatically get the alert. the other hosts can then alert on the same thread as if it were a violation of the Statement of Purpose and can explain their vote on the lock in the comment box. in a short period of time, the hosts on duty will have voted on the lock, and in a few minutes we'd know who was around and who wasn't: if there was unanimous agreement of the folk around to lock, we'd lock. but the missing hosts will have the alerts in their inboxes -- and when they return to duty then could also vote on the thread. this gives a mechanism for possibly temporary locking: if the thread has been locked and there's only one later host objection to the lock, not overridden by Renew Deal, the locker would unlock; if the thread has been locked and there's only one later host objection to the lock, Renew Deal could override that one objection, and the thread would remain locked; if the thread has been locked and there are two or more later host objections to the lock, the locker would unlock. Renew Deal, as lead host, would be able to remove any locking host who (after reasonable notice) failed to unlock pursuant to this agreement. This also gives a mechanism for chilling a thread temporarily and reopening it later
Thanks to the LGBT forum AGAIN for their leadership on getting people organized. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1137720
Edit: I changed this from Friday to Thursday for two reasons. One is that I thought it was Thursday when I posted this, and the other is that it's pretty clear where this is headed.
I think we need hosts to keep out the off-topic spam.
Sounds like a good, balanced team.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Looks good.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,160 posts)Also, a point about having no hosts - there was a question on what happens to Statement of Purpose alerts if there are no hosts. With thanks to EFerrari for finding the following paragraph - I think it would mean such alerts would just disappear:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=modsystem
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Looks like we'll need 'em.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,160 posts)I don't think anyone's counting until the time is up.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)...future historians may be interested in the complex progression of my thoughts on this subject.
laconicsax
(14,860 posts)deacon_sephiroth
(731 posts)sure, it's better than my idea to just elect ravenous extremists from both sides and let the whole place be a bloodbath for my amusement... but then I've always been a romantic like that.
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)Hopefully we will get polls back soon.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)I mean to say, when hosts need to decide something, how they come to forming a consensus need to be public info. No secret meetings, no star chambers. If a thread is locked, then the opinions of the hosts as to what to do need to made public, so that the trust of the test of us can remain high.
Renew Deal
(85,101 posts)Maybe put the info into a locking message.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Were listed in the locking post, so that we all can see how each host voted and why.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)lazarus
(27,383 posts)ever. A host's job is to lock off-topic threads and ban disruptors from the group.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)Thats my opinion
(2,001 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)Jim__
(15,219 posts)humblebum
(5,881 posts)appealed. How democratic is it for a jury to pass judgment with only a charge being presented, the "defendant"
not being allowed to present a defense, and consequently being judged by an other than unanimous vote?
It may seem trivial, but recently recently a "case" was presented to a jury. A "charge" was made that the "defendant" said certain words, that in reality were never said nor implied, and the subject of the charge was a complete fabrication and misrepresentation of the actual facts.
Again, this may seem trivial, but if such actions become common, the credibility of DU itself could be undermined.
Response to humblebum (Reply #13)
Goblinmonger This message was self-deleted by its author.
cleanhippie
(19,705 posts)That's one of the negative aspects to that.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)iris27
(1,951 posts)Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)iris27
(1,951 posts)rrneck
(17,671 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)No whine either.
Nice turn of phrase.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)maddezmom
(135,060 posts)EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)We should also be working on a succession plan.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
WhollyHeretic
(4,074 posts)frogmarch
(12,251 posts)TygrBright
(21,359 posts)...attempt at manipulation to just this end.
Of course, I have a nasty, cynical, paranoid streak. Feel free to ignore me.
equably,
Bright
WhollyHeretic
(4,074 posts)2 incarnations tonight.
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)One with experience with DU - they knew where to troll. I have a feeling we haven't seen the end of this person.
Renew Deal
(85,101 posts)It was actually a troll attack.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)Response to Renew Deal (Original post)
laconicsax This message was self-deleted by its author.
westerebus
(2,978 posts)Looks to be a good crew and reasonable policy.
WolverineDG
(22,298 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Hosts are needed quickly, to take out the trash.
Sid
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)If jurors are allowed to blatantly disregard attacks on groups of people they dislike, what the fuck good are hosts?
ZombieHorde
(29,047 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I wish you the best, too bad it's come to this, I had really high hopes for DU3.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)(Good initial set of hosts too.)
rexcat
(3,622 posts)Renew Deal
(85,101 posts)I will submit this to admin.