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Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:05 PM

The Vatican still protects pedophile priests

Urging a sprawling religious institution to take immediate remedial action to redress a scourge of pervasive sexual abuse within its ranks is unlikely to generate global controversy. Unless that organization is the Catholic Church and the edict is issued by a secular watchdog and muddied by the Vaticanís unique status as a hybrid sovereign state ruled by its own religious laws and mores.

On Feb. 5, the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child issued a stern rebuke of the Holy See for its failure to comply with its international obligations under the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The panelís observations in its second periodic report on the Vatican accused it of systematically protecting pedophile priests and showing greater concern for preserving its own reputation and protecting the perpetrators than for upholding the best interests of the children.(cleanhippie note: This IS what happened here. That is fact. Does anyone dare anyone to deny this?) It called on the church to remove abusive clergy from official duty, turn abusers and those who shielded them over to state authorities for prosecution and release its voluminous archives of sexual-abuse complaints.

The U.N. report has reignited a lingering debate between defenders of the church and critics who deplore its handling of the sex-abuse crisis. Survivor groups and their supporters hailed the report as a watershed development in their arduous and lengthy battle to seek redress for past and ongoing abuses as well as efforts to prevent future ones. They have long criticized the Vatican for hiding behind a stony and impenetrable wall of secrecy, obstructing justice, protecting abusers and punishing whistle-blowers.


http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/the-vatican-stillprotectspedophilepriests.html

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:14 PM

1. This is the most salient quote from the article:

 

Opinion

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Response to rug (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:16 PM

2. And this is the most salient quote from your post:

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:18 PM

3. You should have manipulated it with bold face and italics like you did the OP.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:30 AM

4. Here is the

News report that says the exact same thing.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/2/5/un-demands-immediateactionfromvaticanonchildsexabuse.html

But I guess you need to side with the Vatican in spite of it all.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:00 PM

8. Here is the

 

report itself:

http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/Treaties/CRC-OP-SC/Shared%20Documents/VAT/CRC_C_OPSC_VAT_CO_1_16307_E.pdf

Here is the quote at issue (page 4):

22. The Committee urges the Holy See to ensure the immediate removal of all priests suspected of child pornography and other crimes under the Optional Protocol and adopt without delay regulations, guidelines and mechanisms to effectively prevent in this regard, including in translating the Optional Protocol into local languages of the countries and in disseminating it in child-friendly formats.


Here is the headline of the opinion piece:

The Vatican still protects pedophile priests


But I guess you need to side with bias in spite of it all.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:29 PM

11. It matters not what rug thinks, his apologetic position is well-known and his response was expected.

As much as he wants it to be, its not about him.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:33 PM

14. In contrast to relying on expectations, your thoughts, when examined, are often found wanting.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:36 PM

15. In contrast to yours, when compared, are literary masterpieces.

Now go on, get that last-word compulsion fix that you so desperately need.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:39 PM

16. To call another's statement, when compared to yours, a literary masterpiece, is setting a low bar.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:49 PM

17. It says even more about the statement being compared to.

Oops, sorry, now you have to have the last word again.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:24 PM

18. It seems you're the one with the compulsion.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:59 AM

5. Most salient quotation you ignore

 

U.N. Report

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Response to Goblinmonger (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:44 AM

6. You should have manipulated it with bald Italians.

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:01 PM

9. It wouldn't help. Typography is no substitute for thought.

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:31 PM

13. lol

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:57 AM

7. Yup, and this completely undermines ANY moral authority...

that church thinks it has.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:02 PM

10. How interesting. What precisely do you think is moral authority?

 

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Response to trotsky (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:30 PM

12. ...that they had left. This is just another nail in the coffin.

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