Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:28 PM

Lint Head (15,064 posts)

Was it God's will that Andrew Breitbart died?

I am not advocating any religious belief just wondering what the Christians who believe in predestination think of this question.

I personally believe in free will from a spiritual perspective. Philosophically speaking, from a atheist's perspective, free will is an obvious concept.

If it is God's will, then the right wing evangelicals who idolized Breitbart must be really questioning why God would want Breitbart to die.

Considering the Christian Bible says idolatry is a sin that could be a double whammy?

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Was it God's will that Andrew Breitbart died? (Original post)	Lint Head	Mar 2012	OP
"from a atheist's perspective, free will is an obvious concept"	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#1
As an atheist who regularly calls upon God to punish my enemies	Loudly	Mar 2012	#2
It would be presumptive to state you know and to ask. I'd say Andrew Breitbart did it to himself.	Kurmudgeon	Mar 2012	#3
I agree, too much bad food and smoking - doing drugs and...oh, what's the use - I'll just go finish	demosincebirth	Mar 2012	#4
Clarence needed to get his wings.	Historic NY	Mar 2012	#5
Looks like it.	Lint Head	Mar 2012	#6
Well, I suppose according to most theist beliefs, it's God's will that everyone dies	LeftishBrit	Mar 2012	#7
Of course not. All humans, like all other animals,	MineralMan	Mar 2012	#8

Response to Lint Head (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:45 PM

Warren Stupidity (48,181 posts)

1. "from a atheist's perspective, free will is an obvious concept"

Actually it isn't. One can certainly be an atheist and also think that there is compelling evidence that we have at best the illusion of free will. This has nothing to do with mythical supreme beings, it has to do with the wiring of our wet computers.

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Fri Mar 2, 2012, 10:51 PM

Loudly (2,436 posts)

2. As an atheist who regularly calls upon God to punish my enemies

I can only say that I have a prayer list of very specific individuals whom the world would be better without.

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Fri Mar 2, 2012, 11:36 PM

Kurmudgeon (1,751 posts)

3. It would be presumptive to state you know and to ask. I'd say Andrew Breitbart did it to himself.

Whether thru rage or unhealthy habits or both, let's face it, Breitbart hasn't looked healthy in awhile.
And to any other 50 something rage heads, you better chill too if you intend to not take a dirt nap anytime soon like Andrew.

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 12:54 AM

demosincebirth (12,299 posts)

4. I agree, too much bad food and smoking - doing drugs and...oh, what's the use - I'll just go finish

my cheese burger.

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 01:30 AM

Historic NY (35,788 posts)

5. Clarence needed to get his wings.

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 02:04 AM

Lint Head (15,064 posts)

6. Looks like it.

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 05:28 AM

LeftishBrit (39,922 posts)

7. Well, I suppose according to most theist beliefs, it's God's will that everyone dies

And there is a tension between Christian (and some other religious) beliefs that death is God's will, and that the deceased person is 'in a better place', and the natural human tendency to mourn for family and friends when they die, especially if they die young.

I am not religious, don't believe in an afterlife, and amazing as it might seem to Americans, had no idea who Andrew Breitbart was, until the discussions of his death on DU! But I have often encountered the tensions for religious people between their natural grief, and their belief that their loved ones, or those whom they admire, have 'gone to glory'; that death is 'God's will'; that 'the Lord hath given and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord'. Nor is this sort of conflict exclusive to the religious; there are other ideologies that endorse acceptance of death, and thus can be at times comforting, and at times guilt-provoking and distressing, for bereaved people. I know at least one atheist, who believes very strongly that death is natural and should be welcomed as a part of life; who strongly disapproves of non-acceptance of death; and I suspect that this has actually made it more difficult for her to deal with her own losses, and the grief that these have caused her.

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 10:47 AM

MineralMan (144,540 posts)

8. Of course not. All humans, like all other animals,

die. Some die in infancy, some in childhood, and some at any age. No deity is required for human beings to die. Death comes to us all.

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