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Related: About this forumQuestion of beard and religious freedom unites groups who’ve been opponents
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/question-of-beard-and-religious-freedom-unites-groups-whove-been-opponents/2014/08/31/b3c80f36-310e-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.htmlBy Robert Barnes Reporter
Robert Barnes has been a Washington Post reporter and editor since 1987. He has covered the Supreme Court since November 2006.
August 31 at 8:17 PM
Religious groups and some civil libertarians were often at odds during the last Supreme Court term, but they have found common ground on a religious freedom case that the justices will take up as one of their first orders of business in October.
It involves a quarter-inch of facial hair.
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Gregory Houston Holt is an Arkansas prison inmate who is also known as Abdul Maalik Muhammad. According to his brief to the court, he feels his Muslim faith requires him to follow this dictate: Allahs Messenger said, Cut the moustaches short and leave the beard (as it is).
Holt said he is willing to compromise with prison officials and keep his beard trimmed to one-half inch. But Arkansas corrections officials allow beards only for dermatological conditions not religious beliefs and even then they must be trimmed to one-quarter inch.
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longship
(40,416 posts)Beard, no beard? Who cares? This is just another element of control, not just in religion, but in society in general.
Frankly, I find the hair restrictions in Islamic, Jewish, and Sikh (e.g.) traditions a bit bizarre. But I would not malign a person who attended those faiths mere because of their hair styles.
My one exception to this rule is Phyllis Schlafly. There is no excuse for this
(nor for her political and religion positions. Looking at her dress, one wonders what she made from the rest of the curtains.)
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I suspect he will win. I find their reasons for not allowing this pretty thin, but I can understand their reluctance to allow some things just because a person claims some religious affiliation.
Now, Phyllis Schafly? I agree, there is no excuse. She has never changed that look.
longship
(40,416 posts)And an equally horrible political position, based entirely on religion.
Plus, her dresses look like recycled curtains, or upholstery, or something other than clothing fabric.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Or an apron and dirty dishes! Or a dirty toilet...
My good friend, if one is going to portray women, one has to get it right.
BTW, it all goes back to the struggle for the women's suffrage. The same arguments were used then. And unfortunately hags like Phyllis Fucking Schlafly are still making them.
My mother was an incredible woman. Her, and my two sisters taught me feminism in the fifties, way before it became politically popular. My father, a former US Marine, contributed in that.
We all despised Schafly in the seventies when ERA was being debated. The fact that she is still spouting the same hypocritical poison is astounding.
As always.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)since I stopped working. I never had time for it before and everything was a chore.
Now I love meal planning, cooking, entertaining, gardening, even doing the dishes.
But that is my choice.
I was surprised recently to find that she was still alive and still squawking. An era will hopefully end when she goes.
longship
(40,416 posts)Of course, there's the iconic curtain dress.
Here's the video:
cbayer
(146,218 posts)She was a hero of mine as a child - a woman who seemed unafraid to say anything.
The curtain dress is funny. And don't forget the dress curtain!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)But of course
Bob Mackie
is responsible for the "Curtain Dress" (via Walter Plunkett).... and many other amazing costumes.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)That's two strikes in as many posts.
What on earth shall I do.
Maybe I will freak out and report you!
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Guffaw!
Nah.... he's 70-something.... which just makes one realize how young he was when he was doing amazing stuff in Las Vegas and on TV.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)She was a perfect model for his art.
I'm happy to hear that he has not yet left us. A treasure to be sure.
You do costume design, right?
What kind of work do you do? Any images?
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)I designed stuff, but mostly for local theatre and stuff like that.
But you can see all kinds of stuff I made for Halle Berrie in 2 miniseries she stared in.
"Queen" and "The Wedding"
My big claims to fame, where my stuff is all over the screen are
"Last of the Mohicans" (all the characters I made clothes for die horribly in the film.... Capt Heywood gets burned at the stake, Col Munrow gets his heart cut out, the entire Cameron family gets burned out and slaughtered by the Indians)
"Interview with the Vampire" (I'm not union so they didn't take me to France.... But lots of stuff in NOLA)
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I love costume of all kinds. I made myself and friends very elaborate ones for the big circuit party in New Orleans at Halloween for many years. Nothing like what you do, as they were likely to not last more than the night and were meant only for the relative darkness of the dance floor, but I truly enjoyed it.
Can you give me some easy links for the Halie Berrie costumes? I would love to see your work.
Hilarious about Last of the Mohicans. I remember some of the costumes from that, but sorry your subjects had to die so horribly, lol.
So you spent time in NOLA? Frankly, in some ways it is better than France. It must have been great working on Interview with a Vampire.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Something that was in my playlist recently...
ARGH
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I heard it in Amanda Palmer's, 'Not the Killing Type', but it's not a reference to Bob Mackie, but Mackie in 'Threepenny Opera'.