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muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:48 AM Sep 2014

Christian website calls for violence against all Muslims in the USA

Charismanews.com goes full-on Hutu radio

It’s from Charismanews.com — the website of Charisma magazine, Stephen Strang’s popular publication for Pentecostal and charismatic evangelical Christianity (via). Charisma has always ranged from conservative to reactionary, but this goes beyond that. This is eliminationist rhetoric — a call for ethnic and religious cleansing.
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Cass proposes “three possible solutions” to what he describes as the Muslim menace to the world. The first two are mass-conversion of all Muslims and mass-deportation — “Deport All Muslims Now” he urges:
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What he’s calling for, in other words, is the last of his three solutions. The final solution. Exactly that.

3. Violence. The only thing that is biblical and that 1,400 years of history has shown to work is overwhelming Christian just war and overwhelming self defense. Christian Generals Charles Martel in 732 and Jon Sobieski in 1672 defeated Islamic Turks and their attempts to take the West. Who will God raise up to save us this time? Will God even intervene or turn us over to the Muslims for turning against Him?

Either way, we must be prepared for the increase of terror at home and abroad. This is not irrational, but the loving thing we must do for our children and neighbors. First trust in God, then obtain a gun(s), learn to shoot, teach your kids the Christian doctrines of just war and self defense, create small cells of family and friends that you can rely on if some thing catastrophic happens and civil society suddenly melts down.


http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2014/09/07/charismanews-com-goes-full-on-hutu-radio/

The call to religious violence is still up: http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/45300-why-i-am-absolutely-islamaphobic

The publisher, Stephen Strang, was listed by Time as one of the 25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America in 2005:

In the world of Christian publishing, Strang combines a sense of mission with sharp business acumen. Over the past 30 years, he has built his company, based in Lake Mary, Fla., into a $33 million business that churns out seven magazines and 100 books a year. Niche offerings like The Bible Cure health series are wildly successful, but the company is seeking more crossover hits like G.P. Taylor's Shadowmancer, which has been hailed as Harry Potter's "Christian cousin." Strang's lead publication, Charisma, chronicles the fast-growing charismatic movement and has become powerful enough to wrangle a Bush interview last year.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1993235_1993243_1993319,00.html
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grilled onions

(1,957 posts)
1. It Becomes More Difficult To Like The Religious Nuts
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 07:55 AM
Sep 2014

There was a time when most people who were very religious did not wear it on their sleeve. They were not a billboard for the non believer. They went to their place of faith on whatever day they went and that was that. They certainly did not preach and scream at those who chose not to believe nor at those who chose to believe in another religion. Even if they thought others chose the "wrong" one they kept it to themselves. But today it has escalated to hate to the point that if they can't change their ways,their form of religion it's to the camps for you--or worse. They have gone so far off the deep end to what they want that they would actually kill so when the "big day" comes for them they will have all believers on their side ride for the big lift up into the clouds, leaving a clean slate behind.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
4. He is definitely on the extreme.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:16 AM
Sep 2014

I still think that most people who are religious don't wear it on their sleeves. But this guy does speak for a frightening and scary faction. There is nothing here to like.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. The author's group, the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission,
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 08:04 AM
Sep 2014

is on the SPLC's list of general hate groups. This guy is full on evil.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
16. Especially when they attacked their own
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 02:43 PM
Sep 2014

co-religionists in Constantinople.

In our own country we have the prayers from both sides of the Civil War to Jesus for victory.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
8. These aren't "real" Christians, dontcha know?
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 09:57 AM
Sep 2014

Plus, it's just not the same when Christians threaten violence. After all, they're right and Muslims are wrong. Or something...

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
9. There as real as any others, they just happen to be extremists
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:03 AM
Sep 2014

and a hate group.

It's exactly the same as when Muslims threaten violence or anyone threatens violence.

I know you are being sarcastic here, but I'm not sure who it is you are trying to sound like.

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
10. Exactly, not "true" Christians at all.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 10:54 AM
Sep 2014

No true Christian would ever want to wage war against anyone else, that's not what Jesus wanted at all.

That was this guy:

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
14. And as much as you dislike it, the fact is they are representative of few people.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:15 PM
Sep 2014

Keep looking. You may yet find a fact that comes close to your opinion.

LeftishBrit

(41,203 posts)
11. Genocidal maniacs in principle; at best, paranoid potential terrorists
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:11 AM
Sep 2014

And it is scary that these people can be so influential in some quarters. At least the Phelps family are generally acknowledged to be crazy; Cass is as bad or worse, and yet seems to be given some respectability.

Incidentally, Charles Martel is a popular historical figure with some groups who otherwise probably know little history. Rather worrying!

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
13. And Jo(h)n Sobieski was the victor at the 'Gates of Vienna', worshipped by the website of that name
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 11:33 AM
Sep 2014

whose outlook is unhealthly close to Anders Behring Breivik (it's thought he commented there; he certainly followed the significant figures in that crowd, Pamela Geller and so on).

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. Mr bmus is being courted by an Epicopalian at work.
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:31 PM
Sep 2014

And by courted I mean harassed relentlessly; pamphlets, heartfelt pleas, dire warnings...dude's makes JWs look shy.

Htom Sirveaux

(1,242 posts)
17. I endorse what Brian McLaren had to say about this:
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 06:52 PM
Sep 2014
Gary Cass has done us all a favor: the true face of Christian extremism is on full display: like all violent extremism, that face is a mirror image of what it condemns.

In contrast, I say, "I love my Muslim neighbors and wholeheartedly reject the version of Christianity promoted by Gary Cass and those who stand with him."

http://brianmclaren.net/archives/blog/a-charismatic-christian-calls-fo.html


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