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Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:35 AM

Priest found guilty of raping dozens of children (and a sled dog) in Canada

A defrocked Catholic priest was found guilty Friday of raping dozens of children and a sled dog in the Canadian Arctic, where he worked as a missionary for decades.

The Belgian-born Eric Dejaeger, 67, was convicted of 31 counts of sexual offenses against children and one count of bestiality.

At the start of the his trial last November in Iqaluit, the capital of Canada's northernmost Nunavut territory, Dejaeger acknowledged and pleaded guilty to eight out of 80 original charges.

Justice Robert Kilpatrick ruled the evidence had been weakened by the passage of time, and whittled down the number in the indictment.

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Public broadcaster CBC said they recounted how Dejaeger used his position as a missionary to lure and trap them into sex, threatening them with hellfire and separation from their families if they exposed him.

http://news.yahoo.com/priest-found-guilty-raping-dozens-children-canada-222422393.html

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Reply Priest found guilty of raping dozens of children (and a sled dog) in Canada (Original post)
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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:52 AM

1. It was the dog that got him convicted

" used his position as a missionary to lure and trap them into sex, threatening them with hellfire and separation from their families if they exposed him." Only in Canada do they try to convert sled dogs. Perhaps her found a copy of the Dog delusion next to the kennels?

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 11:55 AM

2. "found a copy of the Dog delusion next to the kennels?"



I see what you did there!

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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:58 PM

5. Wow. Just wow.

 



Of course, not of this had any connection with religion.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:19 PM

3. This concerns religion how?

 

Was the dog a Methodist?

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Response to rug (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 12:30 PM

4. "Priest found guilty of raping dozens of children"

Public broadcaster CBC said they recounted how Dejaeger used his position as a missionary to lure and trap them into sex, threatening them with hellfire and separation from their families if they exposed him.



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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:00 PM

6. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:01 PM

7. Or just pure wilfull ignorance.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #6)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:41 PM

11. So, are you saying these crimes are a result of his religious belief?

 

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Response to rug (Reply #11)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:42 PM

12. He certainly abused religious belief to acquire leverage over his victims.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #12)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:44 PM

14. Others use candy. So what.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 05:48 PM

21. Really? So what?

He threatened them with damnation and hellfire if they didn't obey. So yes, I'd say his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. He fucking raped children and you say that 'some people use candy'. Stay fucking classy man.

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Response to EvilAL (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 06:42 PM

22. Yeah, so what.

 

He was prosecuted and convicted and dealt with. To use this predator as some spurious example of religious belief is stupid and doesn't really address the issue of child abuse, in or outside a church.

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Response to rug (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:02 PM

24. Whatever man,

you can say 'so what' to child abuse by religious people all you want, it doesn't mean you condone it, but it's a pretty fucking shitty thing to say.

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Response to EvilAL (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:55 PM

26. I'm saying "so what" that he's a defrocked priest.

 

There are disbarred lawyers, disgraced politicians, and likely an atheist or two doing time for the same thing.

What is shitty is using rape as a prop.

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Response to rug (Reply #26)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:11 PM

30. It's good that he got caught,

sometimes it works. 'So what' is the wrong fucking choice of words for this particular event. Anybody could have done it, so what. Doesn't really help your argument.

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Response to EvilAL (Reply #24)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:58 PM

27. Yeah. Rug is just deflecting this.

Because it cannot possibly be religion.

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Response to salib (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:15 PM

31. OK, show me step by step how this is a function of his religion.

 

Let's see if you can do it without spewing predigested talking points.

The floor is yours.

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Response to rug (Reply #31)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:19 PM

32. What pre-digested talking point?

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Response to salib (Reply #32)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:21 PM

34. Let me rephrase. Coherent steps.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #34)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:23 PM

35. Huh?

This is a talking point?

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Response to salib (Reply #35)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:24 PM

37. I guess I'll have to check back later.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #37)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:33 PM

39. You do that...

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Response to salib (Reply #39)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:34 PM

40. Well, "What pre-digested talking point?" and "Huh?" does not look promising.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #40)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:46 PM

41. Again. Pathetic.

The first was a question which mostly quoted what you posted. The second was simply "huh". I think if you look back at your post, you will be confused. As well.

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Response to salib (Reply #41)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:57 PM

42. You're doing great! You'll get to a thought eventually.

 

Repeating "pathetic" doesn't really qualify.

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Response to rug (Reply #42)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:58 PM

43. Lol

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Response to rug (Reply #31)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:13 PM

77. "Don't tell anyone about this or the boogeman will get you."

Doesn't quite have the same ring to it, as a similarly made up, yet widely taught concept of a lake of fire of eternal torment, to abuse as leverage, does it?

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #77)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:29 PM

81. Absolutely agree n/t

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Response to rug (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:57 AM

45. I don't know why

You seem dismissive about these victims.
I can understand it is embarrassing for the church as a whole.

To say that his position of power over his victims by scaring them into a silent shame with threats of fire and damnation has nothing to do with his being a priest is disingenuous. He is a representative of the church.

He was threatening those children with the very same doctrine they are taught to believe and respect by the church and their families on Sunday. So why on earth would they disobey a man they trusted if he is assigned to espouse rules of morality.

The analogy of candy is a bad argument because one is a reward, and eternal hell is fear tactics. Both the reward/fear atmosphere in dogma deserves further discussion but I don't want to get off point.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #45)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:55 AM

49. Do you really think this man was representing the church?

He used the tools of coercion that were available to him. I have no love for the church or religion but to blame either for the sins of these predators is dishonest. The only relevance religion has to this story is that it was his source of power. A power that he abused.
You are correct about the candy analogy, but predatory pedophiles often use threats to keep their victims silent. Some are priests, some are scout masters, camp counselors, cops, politicians, fathers, uncles. Are we as eager to blame the sources of their power. I think not.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #49)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:02 PM

61. Yes, the powers of coercion

Are prevalent in all forms of molestation and abuse.
I can say that most all of the other organizations you stated would of disassociated themselves from the individual ie the few "bad apples" theory. Which may or may not be where it should lie squarely when we are talking strictly abuse of power.
With that being said...
The church has perpetually covered this up by moving priests from parish to parish to hide the shame of being exposed. The church is ashamed because they espouse morality to their "flock" as an institution. The catholic league comes to mind.

None of those other professions had the power and setting, which is perhaps worse. Coercing victims by telling them "god and hell" will reign down upon them for eternity should they tell someone about the abuse is indefensible.
Iconic imagery that is used for the purpose of reminding the "flock" what has been done in the name of a holy being. Or, what is in store for them should they question faith is inflicting guilt period.
Images of a man nailed to a cross which reinforced every Sunday affects those that are being abused tremendously or they wouldn't of kept quiet for so long. Coercion seems to be a common thread here.
So yes I am eager to place blame squarely where it belongs.
Threatening people to be compliant whatever your means to an end, is NEVER a good thing.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #61)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 04:13 PM

64. OK, you say the other organizations would have disassociated themselves from the individual.

Do you think that this guy being defrocked was an act of disassociation? Did you read the entire piece or did you think there was some kind of cover up going on here.
We all know of the despicable behavior of other priests and the covering up by the RCC. But, let's stick to the OP, which is about one guy in the Arctic, many miles from the Vatican, who raped a huskie and several inuit children 35 years ago. If he hadn't been hiding behind his clerical collar, he would have used other means to scare and threaten his victims. To put the blame for this psycho's conduct on religion or the church is dishonest, inflammatory and ridiculous.

None of those other professions had the power and setting, which is perhaps worse. Coercing victims by telling them "god and hell" will reign down upon them for eternity should they tell someone about the abuse is indefensible.
Iconic imagery that is used for the purpose of reminding the "flock" what has been done in the name of a holy being. Or, what is in store for them should they question faith is inflicting guilt period.
Images of a man nailed to a cross which reinforced every Sunday affects those that are being abused tremendously or they wouldn't of kept quiet for so long. Coercion seems to be a common thread here.
So yes I am eager to place blame squarely where it belongs.
Threatening people to be compliant whatever your means to an end, is NEVER a good thing.


Are you serious? None of my examples had the power? All have the power, from priests to cops to parents. That does not give you a reason to condemn law enforcement or parenthood or the clergy. By your reasoning, the Beatles were responsible for the crimes committed by Charles Manson's disciples and Jodie Foster is responsible for shooting Reagan and Brady. What if Reagan's would be assassin, John Hinckley, had claimed Reagan's love for Jelly Beans had prompted him, would you feel responsible in some way?

The blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the individual who commits the crime.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #64)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:19 PM

67. I specifically used the words

Power AND setting, you are picking and choosing and then calling me inflammatory. The debate isn't going well when you are using my user name and conspiracy theory in your defense.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #67)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:13 PM

76. What debate? You are not debating here. You are pontificating.

Coercing victims by telling them "god and hell" will reign down upon them for eternity should they tell someone about the abuse is indefensible.
Iconic imagery that is used for the purpose of reminding the "flock" what has been done in the name of a holy being. Or, what is in store for them should they question faith is inflicting guilt period.
Images of a man nailed to a cross which reinforced every Sunday affects those that are being abused tremendously or they wouldn't of kept quiet for so long.


We all know this freak used his power and privilege to coerce and intimidate, just as all predators like him do, be they priests or Uncle Ernie.
This story is about a crime and has no more to do with religion than it has to do with dog sledding.

You want to chime in just to score points against religion, go for it. I'm sure you'll find some support among the few who like to take cheap shots at religion, like CH, at every opportunity. But don't insult us with words like "debate". There is no debate here.

You think the following is a "conspiracy theory"?
Are you serious? None of my examples had the power? All have the power, from priests to cops to parents. That does not give you a reason to condemn law enforcement or parenthood or the clergy. By your reasoning, the Beatles were responsible for the crimes committed by Charles Manson's disciples and Jodie Foster is responsible for shooting Reagan and Brady. What if Reagan's would be assassin, John Hinckley, had claimed Reagan's love for Jelly Beans had prompted him, would you feel responsible in some way?

The blame lies squarely on the shoulders of the individual who commits the crime.

Do you really not get it? If you don't and actually think there is some kind of conspiracy theory happening, then we can call it a day and move along.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #76)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:21 PM

79. Dude

Take a breath and read what you replied.

YOU mentioned conspiracy first and you used my user name to put the cherry on top as if I would be dissuaded by your argument. YOU are the one that brought up those things first.

What part of that can't you read?

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #79)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 05:26 AM

83. Got a link to me mentioning "conspiracy"? Dudette.

I used a variation of your user name to make an analogy. Analogies are devices often used to help others understand more clearly. My point is that religion had as much to do with this guy's motivation as Jelly Beans did with John Hinckley's motivation. If you still don't see that, then I can't help you further.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #45)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:16 PM

53. I'm not dismissing the victims in the least.

 

I'm dismissing the bullshit talking point that because he's a defrocked priest he did it because he was a priest.

That is dismissing the very nature of child abuse and child abusers, all in the name of making a lame argument against religion.

And if you think grooming children as prey has any bearing to catechesis, you're falling into the same pit of illogic.

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Response to rug (Reply #53)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:36 PM

62. So if I'm to understand

I am the one dismissing child abuse?
So making a little quirky joke about the dog being a Methodist isn't dismissive?
Your knee jerk reaction to dismiss my point is very telling of blind faith.
As I stated before this is embarrassing for the church and you may not want to discuss it honestly but it has become a real problem within the church. More importantly it speaks volume of the coercion and power that religion wields to those most vulnerable.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #62)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:43 PM

72. No, you're the one minimizing it in a rush to use it as an exemplar of religion.

 

It's not.

Talk about knee jerks.

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Response to rug (Reply #72)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:57 PM

73. You answered

That as a the third post...I read through the post and the responses before I posted my opinion.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #73)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:58 PM

74. It's an old tactic, used often by the OP.

 

Just check his posting history.

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Response to rug (Reply #74)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:17 PM

78. But then you go on

Later in the thread to post "so what" (regardless of whether you were speaking from the POV that another predator was off the street) at the very least, was insensitive.

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Response to Gelliebeans (Reply #78)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:23 PM

80. Quoting another thread.

 

Read it for context.

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Response to rug (Reply #14)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 07:36 PM

23. It has a number of implications.

Using (abusing) religious doctrine, in the trappings of a man of god, to hurt people has some interesting logical conclusions.

One might be that there is no god at all.
One might be that a god is too impotent to intervene.
Another that god actively chooses not to intervene.

When a person, say a teacher, a person in a position of authority over children abuses said children, and the school had monitoring measures in place to catch such abuse, and those measures are not utilized at all, and the abuse goes unchecked, usually that has serious and appropriate consequences for the school, and its administrators.

Why should anyone cut an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscience 'god' a pass on same sort of failure?


(of course, I go with option one)

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #23)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:23 PM

35. You are confusing "an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscience 'god'" with a human institution.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #35)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:36 AM

44. A human institution that purports to represent, advertise for, and dictate doctrine/terms/etc

to followers. Making them an authority on that god's behalf, yes?

Isn't your church allegedly appointed by your god to carry out that work? (Sans abuse, of course.)

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #44)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:20 PM

54. And where in its divine charter is child rape?

 

You are missing the point that the people who belong to it, as any other human institution, do extremely fucked up things regardless of the institution or its purpose.

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Response to rug (Reply #54)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:11 PM

75. Did I say anything about it being in the charter?

I said something about the god purportedly represented by these people, remaining 100% silent as they misbehave in his name, claiming his authority as they do it.

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Response to cleanhippie (Reply #4)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:40 PM

10. To quote a new member, "so what?"

 

Am I supposed to join a church because someone who seems to have come to the same conclusion as I regarding the existence, or lack of existence, of a "God" is a sexual predator? Are you expecting people to jump on the faith wagon because of this? Many people who don't believe in "God" are dirtbags as are many who do believe so what?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218152152#post1

The actions of this convicted sexual predator have what to do with religion?

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Response to rug (Reply #10)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:06 PM

28. Rug. Give it up.

It has everything to do with his taking advantage of his religious position. He was a priest at the time.

You have been pathetically defending "religion" against what is obviously very embarrassing and telling about yourself, just as this pathetic criminal in Canada was doing.

Give it up.

Really.

Give it up.

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Response to salib (Reply #28)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:20 PM

33. Are you dense?

 

Some teachers use the classroom to take advantage of students. Is the problem education?

Some correction officers use juvenile detention facilities. Is the problem the juvenile justice system?

Some step-parents use their marriage. Is the problem marriage?

Child abuse is caused by child abusers. Period.

Do you really need this explained to you?

Now, before you call anyone pathetic again, take a minute and consider if what you're typing is really as stupid as it reads.

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Response to rug (Reply #33)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:32 PM

38. Wow

"Some teachers use the classroom to take advantage of students. Is the problem education?"
The religious institution is the problem when it allows an official (priest) to take advantage

"Some correction officers use juvenile detention facilities. Is the problem the juvenile justice system?"
Again, yes, if a priest is abusing his flock, the organization is also responsible

"Some step-parents use their marriage. Is the problem marriage?"
Huh?

"Child abuse is caused by child abusers. Period."
And they take advantage of religion to cover their activities. To ignore the obvious connection is to blind yourself to the realty of religion as a cover and an opportunity for these people.

"Do you really need this explained to you?"
Silly.

"Now, before you call anyone pathetic again, take a minute and consider if what you're typing is really as stupid as it reads."
Even more so.. No, I stand corrected. Pathetic is simply that. Pathetic.

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Response to salib (Reply #38)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:22 PM

55. I see you said "huh?" again.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #33)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:14 AM

46. School text books are not full of daughters sleeping with

their fathers and other instances of children being used for sex or any of the other extremely violent things in the Bible. He used his position of authority to physically and spiritually abuse those children. It has everything to do with how he interprets religion, at the very least. There are no such excuses that could be used by teachers, corrections officers, etc. in quite the same way.

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Response to Jamastiene (Reply #46)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:24 PM

56. Do you actually think child rape is a commandment that flows from the Bible?

 

What exactly do you know about sexual predators and their modus operandi?

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Response to rug (Reply #56)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:24 PM

68. That poster knows more about sexual predators than anyone should ever have to.

Instead of continuously defending your institution of choice and excusing fellow catholics who abuse children by using the 'but everybody else does it too' tactic you should show more compassion for the real victims.

And apologize to this one.

Or you could keep demanding that victims explain and justify their hatred for religious child predators.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #68)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:38 PM

70. Assuming you're saying that poster is a victim of child abuse,

 

1) the poster doesn't say that and it's rather sleazy of you to announce it to the world at large. It's not your place to do so;

2) a personal experience doesn't equate to broader knowledge of child abuse, see Dawkins comments on his own "mild pedophilia";

3) the post remains unsupported by the evidence;

4) get off your high horse.

The only explanation of hatred I see is your hatred of any and everything religious.

If you want to discuss your own hatred, see someone with training. A message board is not the best place.

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Response to rug (Reply #3)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 04:26 PM

66. It concerns religion in the sense that the man USED religion to blackmail and coerce the children

Both by using his authority as a missionary, and by threatening them with hell.

If it had not been religion it might have been something else; but certainly in this case he used religion for blackmail purposes.

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #66)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:41 PM

71. That it says more about this predator and nothing about religion.

 

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:27 PM

8. This hit piece doesn't belong in Religion.

It's not about atheists.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:33 PM

9. Lol

My bad.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #8)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 01:43 PM

13. Don't you like discussing atheism, which after all, is a meaningless concept without religion?

 

Maybe all the threads about religion in A&A should be removed. Won't leave much in there, though.

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Response to rug (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:07 PM

15. "Maybe all the threads about religion in A&A should be removed"



Priceless!

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #15)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:10 PM

16. I'm glad you like that. Look forward to keeping abreast on atheism in the Religion Group.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #16)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:16 PM

17. "Look forward to keeping abreast on atheism in the Religion Group."

And there it is!

We no longer have to question your motivation for posting about atheists and atheism in this forum.




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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #17)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:25 PM

18. Actually, I think you (singular and plural) do.

 

I'll keep abreast of DU gossip in your group.

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Response to rug (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:36 PM

19. "I'll keep abreast of DU gossip in your group."

You leave my breasts out of this!

If you're going to peep in our window at least wait until I cover up my lady bits.



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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 02:55 PM

20. Believe me, there are few things I want to do less.

 

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Response to rug (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 10:09 PM

29. Yep, meaningless without religion. Cool.

Oh how I wish we did not have to be a-theists. No theism. Simple.

Imagine no religion...

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sat Sep 13, 2014, 09:18 PM

25. A defrocked Catholic priest...

wait a minute. It seems to me this defrocking was the problem to begin with.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:03 AM

47. I assume one of the faithful has stood up to defend this nonsense with some idiotic diversion.

 

That would account for the plethora of responses I can't see.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 11:08 AM

48. I'm making the same assumption

Of the 47 responses, I can only see 7. My guess is there's some professional level apologetics going on.

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #48)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:15 PM

50. I'm guessing that the usual nannys

Aren't there telling them how disgusting it is to defend him, and asking how low can he go.

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #48)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:26 PM

58. You two remind me of people wearing sunglasses and wondering why everything is dark.

 

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Response to EvolveOrConvolve (Reply #48)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:19 PM

60. +1

 

My guess would be that this actually has nothing to do with religion at all, he probably just really liked animals and the dog led him on.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:27 PM

51. That must be your blind faith kicking in.

Open your eyes and you will see that nobody, not even one of the "faithful" has stood up to defend this nonsense. Good to see you recognize it as nonsense. You're really making progress.

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Response to Starboard Tack (Reply #51)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 12:59 PM

52. nah, my ignore list was based on just reams of evidence.

 

It might be the case that those two have changed their ways, and the ~40 responses I can't see are not some bizarre apologetics for rape of children, and in this case a dog, but I doubt it.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:28 PM

59. You really do talk a lot about your alleged ignore list.

 

I've never seen anyone talk so much about something he's ignoring.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 03:45 PM

63. I really should try the ignore feature some time.

Just as an experiment to see if it makes life easier, as my better half claims, or results in some mystical insight such as you seem to be having.
Do you think it is a failing on my part that I can't bring myself to ignore anything or anyone? I like to hear everything, but I don't listen all the time, yet I like to listen at times without hearing. Does that make any sense?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 01:25 PM

57. It is but one of your many incorrect, and stupid, assumptions.

 

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #47)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 05:29 PM

69. The "but everybody else rapes children too" defense seems to be popular.

Along with the implication that victims are unfairly placing blame on christian institutions, clergymen, enablers and apologetics.

ssdd.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 04:24 PM

65. That is just so vile

What a horrible person.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Sun Sep 14, 2014, 06:37 PM

82. I hope he's put away for a long, long time. But unfortunately he won't get the penalty he also

deserves, which is to be castrated.

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Response to cleanhippie (Original post)

Mon Sep 15, 2014, 12:19 PM

84. "threatening them with hellfire"

Behold, the power of religion.

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