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stone space

(6,498 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 08:45 AM Nov 2014

What do Christians have against libraries?

This discussion thread was locked by xchrom (a host of the Religion group).

Ashley Serfozo, a junior from Cocoa Beach, said she hadn’t slept since she heard the sirens around 12:30 a.m. She was at her home off campus.

“I was considering going to the library,” Serfozo said. “Thank God I didn’t.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article4039995.html


Is this just another example of Christian anti-intellectualism?

Or is there something deeper going on here?

I mean, I sure don't want to be an atheist Wolf Blitzer and put words in this woman's mouth.

Why in the world would a Christian thank God she didn't go to the library?

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What do Christians have against libraries? (Original Post) stone space Nov 2014 OP
Does she think that God saved her? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #1
For some people that phrase and similar ones are little more than "um" or "yeah." LonePirate Nov 2014 #2
Indeed for most people it is "thoughtless" - an intellectually naive statement. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #4
I fully agree with your view. I simply question the trollish thread title. LonePirate Nov 2014 #6
Oh well never mind that. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #7
But you are referring to context. stone space Nov 2014 #16
Please accept my apologies. I will speak before I think next time. LonePirate Nov 2014 #24
They are terrified that people might learn to think for themselves nt LiberalEsto Nov 2014 #3
Her statement is not as hurtful as others. trotsky Nov 2014 #5
See, in this case at least, that thinking demwing Nov 2014 #10
But you admit that line of thinking (believing oneself to be favored by god) is harmful? n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #11
Some of us view libraries as sacred space. stone space Nov 2014 #12
There is no such implication, and to state otherwise demonstrates anti-Christian bigotry. n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #13
Interesting point you have there. stone space Nov 2014 #20
How does your brain work? Cartoonist Nov 2014 #22
Really? How is that? stone space Nov 2014 #23
Knowledge is their enemy and they know it. nt ladjf Nov 2014 #8
They're not filled with bibles? demwing Nov 2014 #9
Shhhhhhhh...... stone space Nov 2014 #15
You're about 1% as clever as you think you are. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #17
Your attempt at a logical conclusion from her statement has failed. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #14
Yup! There was a freaking mad gunman in the library. longship Nov 2014 #19
We hate the Dewey Decimal System. n/t. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #18
I knew it! (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #21
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. Does she think that God saved her?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:36 AM
Nov 2014

LonePirate

(13,437 posts)
2. For some people that phrase and similar ones are little more than "um" or "yeah."
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:45 AM
Nov 2014

I don't think it means anything other than she felt relieved she did not go to the library presumably before the shootings occurred.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. Indeed for most people it is "thoughtless" - an intellectually naive statement.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:54 AM
Nov 2014

Oddly nobody is standing up to defend the actual implications of attributing survivor status (or football victory) to a deity. Instead, in an intellectually dishonest fashion, they are engaged in deflection, in faux outrage, in charade, all in an effort to not have that discussion.

LonePirate

(13,437 posts)
6. I fully agree with your view. I simply question the trollish thread title.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:01 AM
Nov 2014
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. Oh well never mind that.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:04 AM
Nov 2014

The OP doesn't want to have a discussion about intercession by deity so the more the op bends in that direction the less happy the OP will be with the results.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
16. But you are referring to context.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:00 AM
Nov 2014
I don't think it means anything other than she felt relieved she did not go to the library presumably before the shootings occurred.


References to context are not allowed when analyzing the statements made by religious folks.

This thread isn't about guns.

It's about libraries, and what Christians think about libraries.

When analyzing Christian comments about libraries, context must be ignored.

References to context will just get people upset.

LonePirate

(13,437 posts)
24. Please accept my apologies. I will speak before I think next time.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
Nov 2014
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
3. They are terrified that people might learn to think for themselves nt
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:50 AM
Nov 2014

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. Her statement is not as hurtful as others.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 09:59 AM
Nov 2014

But it still touches on a disturbing notion, the idea that one person is preferred over another by one's god. That thinking is the root of a lot of violence and conflict in the world.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
10. See, in this case at least, that thinking
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:26 AM
Nov 2014

had ZERO to do with the violence of the day.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. But you admit that line of thinking (believing oneself to be favored by god) is harmful? n/t
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:27 AM
Nov 2014
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
12. Some of us view libraries as sacred space.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:43 AM
Nov 2014
Her statement is not as hurtful as others.


The logical implication of her statement is that God Hates Libraries.



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
13. There is no such implication, and to state otherwise demonstrates anti-Christian bigotry. n/t
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:45 AM
Nov 2014
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
20. Interesting point you have there.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:04 AM
Nov 2014
There is no such implication, and to state otherwise demonstrates anti-Christian bigotry. n/t


Cartoonist

(7,323 posts)
22. How does your brain work?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:07 AM
Nov 2014

Had the shooting occured in the cafeteria, would the implication be that God hates cafeterias?
You also expose yourself as an imposter by saying, "Some of us view libraries as sacred space."

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
23. Really? How is that?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:09 AM
Nov 2014
You also expose yourself as an imposter by saying, "Some of us view libraries as sacred space."


I'm a mathematician.

It is quite natural for mathematicians to view libraries as sacred spaces.



ladjf

(17,320 posts)
8. Knowledge is their enemy and they know it. nt
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:14 AM
Nov 2014
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
9. They're not filled with bibles?
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:19 AM
Nov 2014

or books about bibles?

Oh I know!

It's because there was a crazy gunman in the library!

imagine not wanting to be in the same room as a crazy gunman? Silly anti-intellectuals!

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
15. Shhhhhhhh......
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:52 AM
Nov 2014
It's because there was a crazy gunman in the library!

imagine not wanting to be in the same room as a crazy gunman? Silly anti-intellectuals!


We are not supposed to mention context when analyzing statements made by religious folks.

Our task here is to derive the logical implications of her religious statement by combining our own views with hers in such a way as to demonstrate what Christians really think of libraries, by attributing our own logical conclusions to her.



 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
17. You're about 1% as clever as you think you are.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014

Again, take some strawman building lessons before you try something like this again. You're just looking a little silly.

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
14. Your attempt at a logical conclusion from her statement has failed.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 10:48 AM
Nov 2014

The statement has nothing to do with god hating libraries. Or anti-intellectualism.

You have friends in this group that can give you strawman building lessons because you need some.

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. Yup! There was a freaking mad gunman in the library.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014

So the comment was understandable and had nothing to do with anti-intellectualism, let alone god hating libraries.

Regards.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
18. We hate the Dewey Decimal System. n/t.
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:03 AM
Nov 2014
 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
21. I knew it! (nt)
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 11:05 AM
Nov 2014
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