Hi. I'm a militant atheist. Do you fear me?
Some folks on DU find militant atheists threatening:
And burn churches, that is not ok. Anyone calling themselves a militant atheist is in the same groupnas hicks and does not belong on this site.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=182630
Do you fear me?
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I mentioned it fairly early on after coming to DU, before realizing how DU comes down on pet owners.
Now it 100% goats, 100% of the time.
If I had said we had cats as pets, then you'd be asking them what all the cat stuff is about.
They just don't like pets, that's all.
No big deal.
I've come to expect it.
It easy to ridicule people thru their pets, and DU is just a hard place for pet owners in general, in my experience, with people constantly doing this.
I've pretty much come to accept the practice as a longstanding DU tradition, since it has been happening here at DU for as long as I've been here.
It's just the way that DU rolls. Not ideal for pet owners, but it is what it is. If pet owners want to be a part of DU, this is just something that they have to put up with whenever they make a post.
In any case, IMNSHO, goats are awesome!
But it's been going on since I first arrived here.
I just assumed that it happens to all pet owners.
Maybe it's only atheist pet owners?
What are all these goats that I've been seeing ever since I came to DU all about?
I assumed that it was just a jab at pet owners, and that it happens to everybody.
It seems lost in the fog of history.
...who one biographer called the Apostle of Militant Nonviolence.
It did not come easy for us in this country, under the weight of the vast influx of immigrants and the residual effects of the frontier tradition, to consolidate a secure internal order based on custom and respect for constituted authority; but finally we managed. This internal order is now in jeopardy; and it is in jeopardy because of the doings of such high-minded, self-righteous “children of light” as the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates in the leadership of the “civil rights” movement. If you are looking for those ultimately responsible for the murder, arson, and looting in Los Angeles, look to them: they are the guilty ones, these apostles of “non-violence.”
For years now, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King and his associates have been deliberately undermining the foundations of internal order in this country. With their rabble-rousing demagoguery, they have been cracking the “cake of custom” that holds us together. With their doctrine of “civil disobedience,” they have been teaching hundreds of thousands of Negroes — particularly the adolescents and the children — that it is perfectly alright to break the law and defy constituted authority if you are a Negro-with-a-grievance; in protest against injustice. And they have done more than talk. They have on occasion after occasion, in almost every part of the country, called out their mobs on the streets, promoted “school strikes,” sit-ins, lie-ins, in explicit violation of the law and in explicit defiance of the public authority. They have taught anarchy and chaos by word and deed — and, no doubt, with the best of intentions — and they have found apt pupils everywhere, with intentions not of the best. Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. But it is not they alone who reap it, but we as well; the entire nation.
It is worth noting that the worst victims of these high-minded rabble-rousers are not so much the hated whites, but the great mass of the Negro people themselves. The great mass of the Negro people cannot be blamed for the lawlessness and violence in Harlem, Chicago, Los Angeles, or elsewhere. All they want to do is what decent people everywhere want to do: make a living, raise a family, bring up their children as good citizens, with better advantages than they themselves ever had. The “civil rights” movement and the consequent lawlessness has well nigh shattered these hopes; not only because of the physical violence and insecurity, but above all because of the corruption and demoralization of the children, who have been lured away from the steady path of decency and self-government to the more exhilarating road of ‘demonstration’ — and rioting. An old friend of mine from Harlem put it to me after the riots last year: “For more than fifteen years we’ve worked our heads off to make something out of these boys. Now look at them–they’re turning into punks and hoodlums roaming the streets.
http://themoderatevoice.com/15520/recall-the-words-of-the-national-review/
My wife was bitten as a child by a friend of hers while my wife and her teacher were trying to restrain her friend in the back seat of the car on the way to see a doctor because her friend had contracted rabies.
Her friend died, and my wife and the teacher both had to go thru a series of very painful shots because they were both bitten by her friend.
People who talk about "rabid atheists" (or "rabid anything"
need to really think about what they are saying.
What other diseases would they like to use like that? Cancer? HIV?
Sheesh!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
you so funny!
militant mili|tant
Pronunciation: /ˈmɪlɪt(ə nt
/
Definition of militant in English:
adjective
Favouring confrontational or violent methods in support of a political or social cause
You seem to define the word militant more like others would use the word "assertive"
So when you say "militant atheist" , we understand (because of the definition of the word) "violent, confrontational, activist atheist" when it really seems that what you are trying to communicate is "outspoken atheist".
Am I correct?
Militant, nonviolent, confrontation.
Perhaps it's our rap sheets that scares people?
Or do I have you confused with somebody else here? Hard to keep folks straight here.
Oops...I need more coffee...
So I made a reference to twitter as well.
In my luddite brain, there are lots of synapses connecting the two.
Guess it's not a very good joke if I have to explain it.
Oh, well...
Even if we use your definition of a confrontational atheist, you aren't that.
What the world understands as militant? Yes, they should be marginalized. If the shootings weren't about a crazy person freaking out over perceived parking spot problems and was, instead, a militant atheist trying to kill believers, then he, and other militant atheists like him, are a threat.
I think there are very, very few of those types of people around. Perhaps I'm wrong.
But if you go to facebook and look at the militant atheist page, you will find this (which is kind of in line with what you are saying about being confrontational but is in NO WAY like the faithiest you act like):
(And I've shared these with you before and you haven't addressed whether you stand with your other militant atheists to support positions like this)
Note the "or". That's a logical disjunction.
When you talk about militants, you are talking about folks like the Berrigans.
Profile
Frida Berrigan
Militant
Frida Berrigan is a peace activist and research associate at the World Policy Institute, specializing in arms trade. She is also a columnist for Foreign Policy In Focus. She is the daughter of Philip Berrigan of the Catonsville Nine and Liz McAlister.
http://www.spokeo.com/Frida+Berrigan+1
You are talking about folks like MLK.
How many churches did MLK burn down?
Or are the rules different for atheists?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025920455
Fucking A+
Then it is time to call upon the fairy goat mother.
Rabid atheists most certainly exist, also, and they should seek medical attention as quickly as possible.
Rabies can kill you.
The injections are painful, but much preferable to what the disease can do to you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_rabies
There are an estimated 55,000 human deaths annually from rabies worldwide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies
Person with rabies, 1959
Signs and symptoms
The period between infection and the first flu-like symptoms is typically 2 to 12 weeks in humans. Incubation periods as short as four days and longer than six years have been documented, depending on the location and severity of the contaminated wound and the amount of virus introduced. Signs and symptoms may soon expand to slight or partial paralysis, anxiety, insomnia, confusion, agitation, abnormal behavior, paranoia, terror, and hallucinations, progressing to delirium.[2][10] The person may have hydrophobia.
Death almost always occurs 2 to 10 days after first symptoms. Survival is rare once symptoms have presented, even with the administration of proper and intensive care.[11] Jeanna Giese, who in 2004 was the first patient treated with the Milwaukee protocol,[12] became the first person ever recorded to have survived rabies without receiving successful post-exposure prophylaxis. An intention-to-treat analysis has since found this protocol has a survival rate of about 8%.[13]
Hydrophobia
Hydrophobia ("fear of water"
is the historic name for rabies.[14] It refers to a set of symptoms in the later stages of an infection in which the person has difficulty swallowing, shows panic when presented with liquids to drink, and cannot quench his or her thirst. Any mammals infected with the virus may demonstrate hydrophobia.[15]
Saliva production is greatly increased, and attempts to drink, or even the intention or suggestion of drinking, may cause excruciatingly painful spasms of the muscles in the throat and larynx. This can be attributed to the fact that the virus multiplies and assimilates in the salivary glands of the infected animal for the purpose of further transmission through biting, and the infected animal's ability to transmit the virus will reduce significantly if he can swallow his saliva with/without external source of water.[16]
Hydrophobia is commonly associated with furious rabies that affects 80% of the infected people. The remaining 20% may experience a paralytic form of rabies that is marked by muscle weakness, loss of sensation, and paralysis. This form of rabies does not usually cause fear of water.[15]
I've manager to make it nearly 60 years so far without burning a single church.
is TexasTowelie approved! 
Notice that I didn't say "God bless you."
I get those mocking threads when I post in the prsyer cir le st times. Some people just can't help themselves.
I am sorry that people have disrespected your prayer circle group. You have got to wonder what kind of person would do that.
Just stay on the high road, justin. People that behave like this got nothing on you.
being so dull that you have to spend your time trash talking a rather small group of other people in a tiny corner of the internet.
Now imagine being so intellectulally impoverished that in addition to the protected group in which you do this, you require "several off-site chatrooms" to continue trash talking a rather small group of other people in a tiny corner of the internet.
Morally speaking, I suppose, one should pity them And truly, I try, but--oh, shit---
--I just can't help it......
They just can't help themselves.
it is the hurtzful means sprited mcokings that are badz!
Personally I think my jihadist atheist op was goofy and light hearted, but then again I think anything with a goat gif is just jolly.
How can you not smile when there are goats?
I didn't say you caused the drama justin, I said that you love it.
But I felt the need to respond in kind with completely off topic and ridiculous accusations.
Still not sure if you've got to the bottom of it.
...on lots of things, including definitions.
Maybe we even have disagreements on the nature of the struggle between Church and State.
Who knows?
But the demonization of Militants that goes on here in this forum needs to stop.
On May 17, 1998, the 30th anniversary of the Catonsville Nine action, Sr. Carol Gilbert, OP, and Sr. Ardeth Platte, OP., previous plowshares participants from Jonah House; Fr. Larry Morlan of the Silo Plowshares; Fr. Frank Cordaro, from Des Moines, Iowa; and Kathy Boylan, past plowshares participant, disarmed a nuclear-capable B-52 bombers during the Department of Defense Open House at Andrews Air Force Base. As hundreds of spectators looked on, the five poured blood and hammered on the inside and outside of the bomb bay missile hatches and doors of the plane. Ardeth was temporarily restrained by a spectator but was able to rejoin the others. As the group began their action, Fr. Cordaro shouted: “Sisters and Brothers, let us disarm these gods of metal.” The group then unfurled their banner, prayed, passed out leaflets to those nearby and explained to onlookers the meaning of their action. They were then arrested and placed under arrest by base security. They were charged with depredation of government property and released.
On September 22, they were tried by a judge in US Federal Court in Greenbelt, MD. Their two-day trial included moving testimony from each defendant, and International law expert, Francis Boyle, was allowed to testify. Following their conviction they requested immediate sentencing. When they were denied this request, they informed the court they could not promise to return for sentencing. They remained in jail until January 4, their sentencing date. Frank, Carol and Ardeth were sentenced to six months in jail while Larry was sentenced to four months imprisonment. Due to her previous record, Kathy was given a 10-month prison sentence.
http://www.jonahhouse.org/archive/godsofmetal.htm
Have I ever said you are a militant atheist?
Not sure if this is a walkback or an overactive imagination.
Do you commonly warn Christians not to call you a Christian, also?
Do you commonly warn gay folks not to call you gay?
Or are you one of those who think we burn churches?
It doesn't fit the SOP, it's a form of a callout, and just unproductive twaddle.
There are such thinks as militant atheists, none of them post on this board, IMO.
But in any event, precise definitions are needed.
Perhaps the murderer of those poor people, Craig Hicks, would be better defined as an murderous atheist.
But then I never met the dude.
