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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
Sat May 9, 2015, 09:56 PM May 2015

How God Helped Ben Carson Cheat on a Chemistry Exam


Ben Carson spoke at a National Day of Prayer event and told a bizarre story about how God helped him cheat on a chemistry exam so he could pass a class he was failing by sending him the answers in a dream. Absolutely nothing about this story sounds even remotely plausible.

As Carson explained it, his goal of becoming a doctor was nearly derailed in his first semester at Yale University when he was failing his chemistry class to such an extent that he would not have been able to pass even if managed to get an A on the final exam. Fortunately for him, this particular professor had a policy that anyone who was failing the class could receive double credit on the final and so Carson asked God for a miracle before committing himself to study for the exam the night before.

But instead of studying, Carson fell asleep and had a dream in which he was alone in an auditorium as some “nebulous figure” wrote out chemistry problems on the blackboard.

“When I went to take the test the next morning, it was like ‘The Twilight Zone,'” Carson said. “I opened that book and I recognized the first problem as one of the ones I dreamed about. And the next, and the next, and the next, and I aced the exam and got a good mark in chemistry. It worked out okay and I promised the Lord he would never have to do that for me again.”

I hope someone looks up his old chemistry professor, if they’re still alive, or some of his other classmates. The idea that a Yale Med School professor had a policy where someone failing his course could get double credit on his exam so they could pass seems incredibly unlikely. The whole story sounds like total bullshit.


http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2015/05/09/how-god-helped-ben-carson-cheat-on-a-chemistry-exam/
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How God Helped Ben Carson Cheat on a Chemistry Exam (Original Post) Warren Stupidity May 2015 OP
That was nice of the Almighty. hrmjustin May 2015 #1
I'll say! leftofcool May 2015 #3
i am a devout Christian and I think I deser e tonight's lottery numbers. hrmjustin May 2015 #5
I had a dream while in college that I failed my physics exam. I did. leftofcool May 2015 #2
great to see you in here my friend. hrmjustin May 2015 #4
So he violated a commandment.... Historic NY May 2015 #6
Story doesn't ring true. immoderate May 2015 #7
The author makes that point. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #8
Extreme example of the 'horizontal Peter Principle.' immoderate May 2015 #11
Plus, he has the arrogance thecrow May 2015 #14
Ooooh! okasha May 2015 #9
Free thoughts are free. hrmjustin May 2015 #10
Do you have anything but snark to contribute, okasha? skepticscott May 2015 #16
Jaws clench tighter and a thick vein throbs to prominence at her temple. mr blur May 2015 #17
Analysis: rug May 2015 #12
What a load of... 3catwoman3 May 2015 #13
Total bullshit sounds about right. bvf May 2015 #15
If this were true edhopper May 2015 #18

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. I had a dream while in college that I failed my physics exam. I did.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:00 PM
May 2015

So I dropped the class and took "physics for poets." It was a miracle I passed that one.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
7. Story doesn't ring true.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:13 PM
May 2015

I do not believe a Yale professor had a policy "that anyone who was failing the class could receive double credit on the final." This would disadvantage students who are passing. They might benefit from double credit on the final.

--imm

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
8. The author makes that point.
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:16 PM
May 2015

So here we have what is probably an outright lie about the policy coupled with an assertion that "god" intervened on his behalf. Carson is simply a fabulist, a self serving liar. And yet he has been described as a hero right here.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
11. Extreme example of the 'horizontal Peter Principle.'
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:32 PM
May 2015

Peter posed that people advance in their profession until they reach their 'level of incompetence.' But suppose, like Carson, someone scales the heights of their profession, and is totally successful? Then they will seek out new professions until they settle into one where they can achieve incompetence. Welcome to politics, Ben.

As a surgeon, Carson's wackiness was not an issue. As a civic leader, wow!

--imm

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
14. Plus, he has the arrogance
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:32 AM
May 2015

to dismiss god afterwards. As in, well god, you gave me exactly what I wanted, so you won't have to do that again.
These people and their ilk irq me to no end.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
9. Ooooh!
Sat May 9, 2015, 10:18 PM
May 2015

Guess what Warren's new favoritest intertubes site is!

And now my fee-fees is hurt because I had to pass chem and physics all by myself!

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
16. Do you have anything but snark to contribute, okasha?
Sun May 10, 2015, 07:31 AM
May 2015

Do you have the courage to stand up and call a liar a liar? Or would you rather defend a rabidly homophobic Republican bigot while attacking another DUer?

 

mr blur

(7,753 posts)
17. Jaws clench tighter and a thick vein throbs to prominence at her temple.
Sun May 10, 2015, 12:57 PM
May 2015

"The world had intruded on them too soon, too insistently."

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
13. What a load of...
Sun May 10, 2015, 01:45 AM
May 2015

...BS. In the link, Carson is quoted as saying the experience was like something out of The Twilight Zone. Indeed - fiction.

edhopper

(33,543 posts)
18. If this were true
Sun May 10, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

isn't it cheating. God giving him the answers he doesn't know should be the same as another student giving him the answers, or him seeing the test in advance.

If he clearly did not understand the class, and only passed because God told him the answers, why would he deserve to pass?

Did he also have a dream of a snake eating it's tail?

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